I'm going old school

I've found that with Liberty doing away with the rewards some places aren't adjusting pricing like they are "supposed" to. It ends up being about $11 an acre difference between Roundup and Liberty beans for just a single pass. Supposedly there is a Liberty herbicide generic that is identical and works as well but I am skeptical so I am going to buy a couple of jugs to try it. I have found a bulk deal on Liberty through a neighbor who is trying to start dealing some herbicide so that will still save me a good bit of money but I am still going to go back to 50/50 beans with Liberty and Roundup. It's a pain just from the standpoint of having a clean planter and spraying but there are only a few fields that have to be Liberty to keep mares tail and pigweed under control so I'm going back to what I did several years ago.

I've also decided to go back to using Treflan (sp) on tilled acres. It has been YEARS since I used it. At the time I had liquid on the field cultivator and a tank on the three point of the tractor but those hoses have long since rotted off. I will just use the sprayer and go over it same day and work it in. Does anyone else still use (or has gone back to) a product like Treflan? Margins are even tighter. I'm looking at things I know work and are more cost effective for these acres.

Just last year we went back to treflan. Helped control the grasses better and we only spray once with roundup.Prowl works better and does'nt have to be incorporated right away. Old school to me would be cultivating and walking them!Lol!

I had trouble with early foxtail and lambsquarter growth that would outgrow the soybeans. My supplier recommended (Ledger) PPI. Did a good job on the early growth, then came back with 1 application of glysophate. PPI worked good but extremely dry summer hurt the effectiveness of glysophate but I did have a good kill on the early grasses.

Ledger is basically Dual with 2 other products that I don't recall at the moment.

I had asked about Treflan but he stated that nobody has used Treflan in years.

Gene

When I made a comment about Treflan at the Coop one of the kids told me he hadn't heard of anyone using it in years. That was the point when a neighbor standing there commented that it was the best stuff he had ever used in controlling tilled ground. That shut bubba up. Treflan can be had cheaply. I foresee folks going back to tried and true ways that don't hurt resistance numbers and aren't time hogs. Sadly, fuel is cheap - I'll find the time to run 400 of the acres twice. The 4440 and 8430 aren't fuel hogs. They are the cheap part when talking of the input equation. I hope the weather cooperates.

I have used Treflan in my pumpkin spray mix along with Command and Duall. I didn't use it last year but I'm going to use it again this year. I think that combination worked better for me than the new school stuff I used last year.

Treflan is still common here with the edible bean growers.

My dealer said he has had the generic Liberty out there for two years now with no complaints so I am going to try it this year 100%. $43/gallon verses $55/gallon for trade name. I think I will also put down some treflan. Get a lot of bang for the buck. I still use cult. on corn and half the beans. Other half beans are drilled in.

I have had good luck with a product called Matador. I think it is only sold by Crop Production Service. It is a mixture of metolachlor, metribuzin, and imazethapyr. It is a pre emerge and works well.