Jon f in MN

The suspense it killing us. Sweet new ride, or ???

I'm curious as well.

One thing I never noticed, and it was probably called out somewhere in the post, was how many miles the Volvo has on it? I remember when Jon bought it, seems like just 2 or 3 years ago. The miles would be a big part of the decision I would think. Bob

I was going to wait to get an actual pic, and wait til I settled down from what has turned into a bad deal. But I went with an almost new truck juat like this one, it has 53,000 miles on it. It is a 2017 kenworth 780 with pacar motor and auto shift trany. It has 500,000 mile/5 year warranty on all the emissions and electrical parts with no deductable, those are the parts that cost me on this truck. It also has 750,000 mile warranty on the enhine and driveline. This is a pic of what it will look like, but this is not mine. I always put on my own graphics on my trucks and will need to decide what to put on this one.

After I made the decission to trade I just had them button up my truck so I could get to Atlanta to get my new one and left, but I only made it a couple miles before smoke started coming out from under the hood. When I got stopped and looked I found what is in the second 2 pics. That is the line for what is called the 7th injector which is what heats up the filter during regen. That line could have sprayed fuel on the manifold while I was driving. Turns out that not hooking up that line was why the system didn't work after the first repair. So there is no reason for the second $6,000 repair. They also broke the line when they were putting it back on and they didn't have a replacement, so I'm still stuck here til noon today. I am still going to go with the new truck, but am a bit peaved that they screwed this up and cost me at least a week off before I get into my new truck, not to mention buying a new truck I wouldn't have done otherwise. Oh well, stuff happens and I'm sure I will like this new truck as it's quite a bit nicer than mine. And I'll feel a lot more secure with the warranty to save me money.

Wow, when it rains it pours. Sorry to hear of the hassles, but hoping this is the light at the end of the tunnel. Post a picture of the new truck once you put your graphics on so we'll be able to look for you on the highways and byways. I don't know squat about big trucks, but the pic you posted is my favorite color for vehicles in general. If I ever buy a new vehicle (ain't gonna happen) I'd want it in that color.

'luck

Can you get any more for your trade since the truck doesn't need the spendy repair, or has that ship sailed?

I assume you are going to ask for the false repair costs from the '''dealer''' that failed. That is your money and your time. Letting them get by with it is what keeps them in business ish. Jim

It was just a lease return, so no trade in.

There were no false repairs because I elected not to do them. The issue is that they never were needed and the time lost.

You will like the new truck. I went from Volvo to Paccar and didn't realize what I was missing. Even the dealer experience was better. John

Like I said had much the same problem from them 6 yrs ago must be the same service manager.

Were the second "replaced" components replaced because of the disconnected fitting? If so, that error was substantially the reason for additional cost. The disconnection and breakage of that pipe. Was bad mechanics. Jim

Glad you are coming to the end of the tunnel. Sounds like the deal is made but a lot of drivers don't like the auto shift and they can be expensive to repair if they have solenoid problems. I drove one and I would rather shift. I wonder what others think. I have talked to several who took them out and put in 13 speeds but that's on older trucks.

Jon, I have been following your experiences with the Volvo quite closely as I am a part-time driver for a small trucking firm in southern MN. Our last three tractors have been Volvos and our experiences with them seem to follow a pattern. For the first half million miles or so we get very good mileage and enjoy how well the truck drives. Then, at about 600,000 miles or so we seem to spend more time in the shop than on the road. Finally, the last one we did not buy, but rather took out a three year lease, so it should not have more than 450,000 when we turn it in.

I had an eaton fuller autoshift 10 in my last truck 2002 volvo. Was a learning curve from a 13 double over. In the city or on back roads it was great, not so much in hills. You had to lock it in gear at the top no down shift once you start down. Had 1,250 000 when I sold it replaced xy shifter once and one rebuild at 600 000 for a bad gear. Good on fuel mileage with an N14 got between 7-8.5 mpg.

It would have been 4 years on the 17th of this month and has 540,000+ miles on it now.

Jon I have drove KW & volvo. Have worked on both.I LL take a KW million times over a volvo. Happy trucking. Richard

Jon what engine did your old truck have in it

Please explain more about the pacar engine. Never heard of that brand of engine?

I think I would have kept trucking with the Volvo and had a great jewish lighting. When they would have found the disconected line after the fire, the shop could make the down payment on your new truck. I just HOPE KW will live up to their word about the 100% coverage of the emissions. The guy I bought a trailer from bought a new KW a few years back and he spent what he made fixing the emissions. He dumped the truck and bought an older pre emissions truck and started making money. I went through this with a 2011 F250 trying to get mileage. Very costly and to find the right guy to work on it. $$$$$! Best of luck and take out plenty of good insurance.

Check this info on engine out. John
PACCAR engine history

It has a volvo 11 litre engine

Pacar is the company that is Kenworth and Peterbuilt ans they make their own engine now.

(quoted from post at 08:58:37 01/06/17) Pacar is the company that is Kenworth and Peterbuilt ans they make their own engine now.

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I'm not an expert, but did some research on PACCAR engines awhile back. They are Cummins with PACCAR ECU, FUEL injection and Emissions systems. Basically a Cummins crate long block.