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Dave H (MI)

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Going back to look at the original two this weekend. There was a lot of snow around and on top of them and I want to do a final look see. We also have them tentatively sited on our place. On the east side of the barn and across the lane and half in the bean field...oh well...need the room and there is lots of it there. Planning putting them side by side and angling the unloading augers toward each other just a bit to facilitate moving the power unloader. Since I have never sited bins I would appreciate advice. Also, should there ever come a time I want to move the contents of one bin into the other bin...how does this happen? I can visualize a multi step process involving a lot of equipment jockeying...but there must be an easier way? Should I plan for it now? Anything else to plan ahead on?
 
make sure you build the concrete pad high enough for easy unload. little bit more concrete makes getting augers under the unloading auger much easier. all my bins have been moved .
 
Putting them in proximity and angled is good for filling and unloading. Thinking about what is in each and planning should make putting grain in one from the other irrelevant. The empty space is in one or the other, the question is will putting the grain in the other be an advantage?. When placing the pads, plan on having a nice straight entry and exit from the pair so that short turns and backing are not needed. Jim
 
For transferring from one to the other about the only way is use of a bin unload auger into a gravity box funneling down to a bin fill auger. I've done it like that for years as my dryer unload auger will not reach a bin I have located about 100' from dryer. A swing hopper sure is forgiving when lining all that up.
 
In regard to siting so you can move from one to another, it just depends how long the auger is, that you will use to transfer grain. With a vertical unload, you dump into a catch wagon, which feeds the auger. With the horizontal unload (and yes, with a vertical, there should be a discharge door on the horiz auger...just disconnect the chain that runs the vert, and open the door), just set the auger under the horiz discharge and auger directly into the second bin. One advantage of a catch wagon is that you don"t need to be so precise in figuring the length of auger that you need to transfer. Plus, when getting close to emptying the bin, you can shut off the transfer auger and concentrate on shoveling/sweeping out the first bin, then unload the catch wagon. Running augers near empty wears them out prematurely.
 
Dave moving grain from one to the other on smaller bin of the same size usually requires two augers and a wagon to get everything to line up. I have one place that has a 24 foot drying bin next to a thirty foot storage bin. With my 70 ft. swing hopper auger I can move the corn there without anything else. The bins are spaced apart. You could set yours apart and do the same thing.
 
One thing to keep in mind, is to site the bins where the is lots of room to get trucks in to load and unload, trucks aren't going to get any smaller, and so need room to turn around, and to load the bins you need room for the auger.
 
I think you have your own grain truck which is easier to get in and out of the area around the bins. However, I'd recommend that you leave plenty of room to get a semi trailer in and out of the bin site. You never know what will happen in the future that could change your grain hauling. It sounds like you have the room so now is the time to get things "right".
 
Back in the day when the place was leased, the semi's pulled right on the field. It wasn't that long ago and I am amazed by it honestly. Since I started farming the place it has been a mess of sticky gooey mud each fall and no way is a semi getting on the place or back to the barn. My small grain truck is a real hero in the mud but I still need to stay on the (sort of) packed lanes to get out. In a good year a truck could pull off the road and swing across a picked field and pull up to the bin. When I put these up they will extend a good 10-15 feet into that same field. I will extend that same width up to the road and use it to widen my lane so large equipment will eventually get in. Going to take a lot of aggregate to make that happen as there is a bit of a watershed in the middle of that lane. Can get sticky at times.
 
So I guess you are hinting around that I cannot justify one of those tower things with the platforms and the flagpole at the top? Whatcha callit? A grain leg? Bummer! I was thinking of sitting up there all day with binoculars. Mostly because if I ever got the nerve to climb up I would need the FD to bring me back down and I would be to embarrassed to call. :)
 
What do you have for an auger to fill these bins with? I would guess a 45 to 50 foot straight transport auger would reach but you had better check you numbers before quoting me. I was thinking if you wanted to transfer grain then place the bins spaced so you could unload directly into the auger and dump into the second bin. Like JD said a swing away makes this easy. Lots of people use 2 augers and a wagon or truck between but when you have the choice it would be best to eliminate that.

As for the semi traffic I would leave at least a 75 foot minimum circle for a semi to pull in and swing around. They will want an easy hopefully somewhat straight run get back on the road when loaded.

The idea of putting the bins footing up a foot or so for the unloading auger is good advice too. I have one bin with low clearance and its a pain when its sump underneath is filled with water or worse ice. Adding and upswing unload auger can make up for low clearance but that adds expense and power requirements from the unloader motor.
 
I myself wouldn't angle the augers towards each other. May be a bottleneck with loading trucks a few years down road. Every bin I've been around are straight out.
 
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