Oliver history items?

IaLeo · Dec 14, 2016

A JD engineering supervisor told me that Oliver had the first independent PTO.
A while back, this board told me that Hart Parr had the first two cylinder engine.
I worked with an engineer who said Oliver had developed an electric over hydraulic system. Never found out if it was offered to the public.
I think Oliver was the earliest in "styling".
Anyone have better information? Thanks Leo

MikeinKy · Dec 14, 2016

Oliver did have a electric over hydraulic system. They made a lot of them. I don't know when it was started. They had them, I think from the
mid fifties through the late 60's. I'm not sure about independent PTO, I thought Cockshutt had the first live PTO.

Kickinbull · Dec 14, 2016

Power beyond, Oliver. But JD coined the phrase.

leroy in ne · Dec 14, 2016

I was told cockshutt had first live pto by a few months. I believe in 1946 on model 30 both my 1948's are live

Mike(NEOhio) · Dec 14, 2016

I was told Cockshutt had the first independent PTO with the 30 which came out in 1946. 40 and 50 two years later. The systems are very similar.

J. Schwiebert · Dec 14, 2016

Oliver had the electric control of the hydraulic unit when the hydraulic unit became first available in 1949/1950. Hart Parr did have 2 cylinder tractors when they first started building tractors as did other manufactures such as the Famous Oil Pull tractors. You have other questions?

oleclint · Dec 14, 2016

Oliver was first with a live PTO ? but if you think back a long ways. Hart Parr had a live power set up on a few of there tractor models. There is a Hart Parr at the Charles City Museum on desplay that has the Live P T O. .
This should get a few people all stirred up , as H -P is not Oliver. But related.

Alan K · Dec 14, 2016

I agree, I have always heard Cockshutt had the first live pto.

WGM · Dec 15, 2016

Only figures. John Deere was and is first in everything.

VADAVE · Dec 15, 2016

WELL Hart-Parr was the predecessor to Oliver. So Hart-Parr wasn't the same tractor but the company was the same and Hart-Parr wasn't made after Oliver was peoduced.

Kent Petersen · Dec 15, 2016

That,s not true, Deere let others make a lot of new things. then they would by out the best of the group like Van brunt grain drills Dane hay equipment and many others

rrlund · Dec 15, 2016

I believe Oliver had developed independent PTO before the war,but the war,then a strike right after,held up production,so Cockshutt came out with it in Canada before Oliver did in the US.

rrlund · Dec 15, 2016

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rrlund · Dec 15, 2016

They never stole a patent they didn't like.

Leroy · Dec 15, 2016

Coop had an independent PTO on the Model C built before WWII but it was powered off the front of the engine with 2 heavy V belts to a shaft along the left side of the tractor to the back where it was hooked up with a clutch and moved to center of tractor. They also made that tractor with standard PTO and most were that way. The ones with standard still had the place at the front for those V belts. I have seen a few of these. It was a low 20's PTO HP tractor with a row crop front. Only made a couple of years till the war put a stop to production.

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