I've wondered for YEARS, What is the indicator that makes it an International rather than a Farmall? I used to believe that tricycle style were Farmall and standared or wheatland style were Internationals. The 56 series tractors seamed to be Farmall if gear drive and International if Hydro. But that doesnt always prove true ether! Few years ago I saw an 806 that had Farmall on the right aide and International on the left. I assumed THAT was because they couldnt find the correct side panel to replace a damaged one. The shocker was the pic. of a 400 trike with INTERNATIONAL on the side in a recent post!!! Was the Farmall for domestic use and the International for export?? I have 2 IHC history books and I dont remember Ether one mentioning a distinction. CURIOSITY IS KILLING THIS CAT!!! I did post this on IH forum also.
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flying belgian
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I always thought it was standard tread-International, row crop-Farmall.
Athol Carr
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In the 1930s and 1940s, International indicated Industrial Tractors, the farm tractors were McCormick-Deering and Farmall was a trade name used by McCormick-Deering (International Harvester Company) for the Row-crop tractors (i.e. Farm All). The Farmalls were decalled McCormick-Deering Farmall. The plate on the grill was "Farmall" for the Farmall tractors, "McCormick-Deering" for the other farm tractors and "International" for the Industrial tractors and most of the TracTracTors (crawlers).
Easiest way to remember it is. The original Farmall was a narrow front. Adjustable rear wheel width was the big transition and is still in use today.This made the F12's very poplular and was carried over to all tractors afterward. The F20, F30, A, B tractors did not have the infinate rear wheel adjustment. The narrow front on tractors now are non exsistant, no one cultivates their crops any more unless they raise specialty crops such as vegetables. Reason they called them "Farmall" is because you could plow, plant, cultivate & harvest your crops all with one tractor, so you could Farm-all your ground with the one tractor. Before that time gas tractors were mainly used for plowing, disking pulling wagons, belt work, the rest was done with horses.
BarnyardEngineering
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Farmall is the row-crop tractor. International covers the standard-tread, industrial, tracked and utility tractors.
Keep in mind that people can do some crazy things, in the name of saving money, and don't always know what's correct, so you'll find just about anything on a 50+ year old tractor.
If you look closely at Farmall and International models over the years you will see the lines clearly starting to blur (pun intended). By the 1960's the differences between a Farmall and an International model of the same tractor were minor, a set of fenders, different headlights, the front axle. Eventually the wheatland/standard tread models were completely dropped, and the Farmall name was also dropped.
Keep in mind that people can do some crazy things, in the name of saving money, and don't always know what's correct, so you'll find just about anything on a 50+ year old tractor.
If you look closely at Farmall and International models over the years you will see the lines clearly starting to blur (pun intended). By the 1960's the differences between a Farmall and an International model of the same tractor were minor, a set of fenders, different headlights, the front axle. Eventually the wheatland/standard tread models were completely dropped, and the Farmall name was also dropped.
I believe the way it is/was - Farmalls were row crop tractors, Internationals were standards, etc.
The owners manual for my 756 shows pics of the International and Farmall versions and where they are different, speaks to this.
Seems like I read that somewhere in the mid 70's IH moved away from the Farmall name to just International. Some later model tractors still got some Farmall bling so as to use up inventory.
Anyone relieved when the NH and CIH merger happened, they let loose the McCormick name vs Farmall? I hated to see either go, but I gather McCormick was used more in Europe than North America? So maybe it was fitting McCormick went over there?
The owners manual for my 756 shows pics of the International and Farmall versions and where they are different, speaks to this.
Seems like I read that somewhere in the mid 70's IH moved away from the Farmall name to just International. Some later model tractors still got some Farmall bling so as to use up inventory.
Anyone relieved when the NH and CIH merger happened, they let loose the McCormick name vs Farmall? I hated to see either go, but I gather McCormick was used more in Europe than North America? So maybe it was fitting McCormick went over there?
Agree, Farmall A, Farmall B, Farmall C/Super C were not carrying 38 inch tires, but were all Farmalls. A neighbor has a 966 wide front carrying "Farmall" badges. While most of the original Farmalls were indeed row crop narrow front, later models carried the Farmall badges like that cabbed wide front 966.
notjustair
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Our 856 Wheatland was an International. Our 966 row crop was a Farmall. My 886 row crop is an International.
BarnyardEngineering
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- Rochester, NY
The 966 Farmall is a row crop tractor even though it has a cab and a wide front.
What makes it a row crop tractor is the adjustable tread width and relatively high clearance.
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