Hi, I am new to this forum, but I have read many opinions on here that prove to be very valuable. My Question is this...I have an Oliver 1655 Diesel that I would like to put a plow behind, I know I could pull a 4 bottom, but I only want a 3 because I will be plowing up lots of willow brush and such, my question is which type of plow is best for this tractor, a 3 pt plow, semi mount plow or trailer plow. I have used a trailer plow. Any advice you have on this will be appreciated. Thanks
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coshoo, Thanks for the fast reply. The ground I am turning over is about 35 acres of ground that hasn't been turned in about 35 years as well, so it is grown up with lots of brush and garbage. There are some larger trees too, but I will be cutting them down and pulling the stumps. seeing as I am going to be going through lots of root masses, am I going to be asking too much to use a three bottom, or should that pull fine. I hate to go too much smaller or it will take me forever and a day to plow the 35 acres. Also, is there a general rule of thumb for how much ground you can plow in a given amount of time per plow bottom you have. Thanks again for any responses.
With the brush your talking about I would want a three point plow so you can pick the plow up to unplug it after you get a wad of willow stumps stuck in the plow. A pull type would be miserable for what your doing. A semi-mount would be a little better but a good three point lift plow would lift much higher to dump the junk out. LOL.
Buy a newer model plow as they will usually have more clearance under the beam and more distance between the bottoms too. This make them handle more trash better. A Ford 150 plow is a White/Oliver three point plow that works well. There is one at Chillicothe, Ohio on Tractor house. The White model number would be a 508 IRC. You will find more semi mount 508s than three point ones. It seems like the Ford models where more three point ones. Same plow.
Buy a newer model plow as they will usually have more clearance under the beam and more distance between the bottoms too. This make them handle more trash better. A Ford 150 plow is a White/Oliver three point plow that works well. There is one at Chillicothe, Ohio on Tractor house. The White model number would be a 508 IRC. You will find more semi mount 508s than three point ones. It seems like the Ford models where more three point ones. Same plow.
Eldon (WA)
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I bet it would pull this Oliver 6 bottom real nice
Traditional Farmer
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- Location
- Virginia
With brush you need a disk plow.
Get a 3 pt mounted one. I have a dearbourne 2
bottom 3pt, my neighbor brush hogged a area he
wanted to plant as a deer plot, the first year it was
full of roots from honeysuckle ect, he had to unplug
the plow every pass, last pic is when it was all
cleaned up nice plowing, no more roots.
bottom 3pt, my neighbor brush hogged a area he
wanted to plant as a deer plot, the first year it was
full of roots from honeysuckle ect, he had to unplug
the plow every pass, last pic is when it was all
cleaned up nice plowing, no more roots.
farmerwithmutt
Well-known Member
I had 4 X 14 on mine foot deep in clay no
problem. I liked the fact you can lift
either end to get a slug out. How about a 3
X 16th would give a little more trash
clearance? Also try a rotavator. Maybe
that would chop it up first. One big thing
loosen the trip bottoms up and make sure
they work found out the hard way to do that
two shares gone one rock never slowed the
tractor down.
problem. I liked the fact you can lift
either end to get a slug out. How about a 3
X 16th would give a little more trash
clearance? Also try a rotavator. Maybe
that would chop it up first. One big thing
loosen the trip bottoms up and make sure
they work found out the hard way to do that
two shares gone one rock never slowed the
tractor down.
Travis,
I have a good 3 point 3 bottom made by Oliver that I would see you right. I bought it but it was to big for my tractor.
If interested email at [email protected]
No the pic of my plow but is like this one:
cornerpost
Member
Agree with pull type for you and 3 x 16.
How important are trip shares and coulters? I went back to my old Missouri rocky hill-top farm, all growed up in sprouts and rocks and sumac, bush-hogged her and plowed her up. With a JD 2 - 14 trip bottom, with coulters. In my case, mandatory. I hooked all sorts of rocks, stumps, sumac root systems, and that trip bottom worked perfectly. She went bang, I raised the plow, backed up, re-set, and off I went again. The coulters make a nice slice vertically, then the bottom of the mold board makes a slice horizontally, and she turns the slice over. Coulters real important, in my opinion. However, if you have nice black tilled soft soil, no rocks, no stumps, no roots, maybe not.
Bruce from Can.
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- Location
- Woodville, Ontario, Canada
Many opinions offered here , so I might as well jump in too . I ,like you have
taken on land that has been left to go back to trees many times over the past 36
years . The first time , I had a oliver rooster comb lift trail plough . Like the
plough , but it was tough to unplug.
I next went to a fully mounted 3 point Kenvernlands spring reset. While you
would think that it would be easier to unplug because you can lift it, a plugged
plough is still a plugged plough. Lots of pulling and kicking to get it free.
My last time , When I bought a farm that had been rented out for many years ,
and low , and wet corners where left to go back to nature. I am now pulling a 5
furrow semie mount MF 880 , not really much different to unplugg than any of the
others. I was ploughing out willows that where as high as the tractor cab, and
these suckers would completely plug the plough solid. I cleaned up about 8 acres
in total .
I know think a roll over plough would be best , as gravity would help some to
unplug.
taken on land that has been left to go back to trees many times over the past 36
years . The first time , I had a oliver rooster comb lift trail plough . Like the
plough , but it was tough to unplug.
I next went to a fully mounted 3 point Kenvernlands spring reset. While you
would think that it would be easier to unplug because you can lift it, a plugged
plough is still a plugged plough. Lots of pulling and kicking to get it free.
My last time , When I bought a farm that had been rented out for many years ,
and low , and wet corners where left to go back to nature. I am now pulling a 5
furrow semie mount MF 880 , not really much different to unplugg than any of the
others. I was ploughing out willows that where as high as the tractor cab, and
these suckers would completely plug the plough solid. I cleaned up about 8 acres
in total .
I know think a roll over plough would be best , as gravity would help some to
unplug.
Part Time Pete
Well-known Member
- Location
- Leatherstocking Region NY
I'd go with a three bottom semi-mount, with auto reset. The newer semi-mount plows have more clearance for trash than a three point, and if the ground has lots of obstacles, the auto reset will make it so you're not backing up half the time.
Pete
Pete
With 35 acres to do I believe that you should do some brush clearing before you stat to plow.as plows are for plowing, not for land reclamation. I cleared a 10 acre field on rented land by first taking my tractor and loader and pushing the bigger clumps of brush into piles and then taking my dozer and pushing the piles off the field to a waste area. It took me a while to clean up this field but when I plowed it I had no problems and the land worked up nicely.
If you plow first you will have that crap to deal with for a long time and it will interfere with working the land and planting. Happy farming.
If you plow first you will have that crap to deal with for a long time and it will interfere with working the land and planting. Happy farming.
Neil Grant
Member
I believe a good approximation of acres per hour is mph x ft of coverage decided by 10. This allows some time for turning, etc.
Neil Grant
Member
Make that divided by lol.
Thanks for all the great replies! I think I will be getting a 3pt with auto trip and spring coulters. I will definitely be brush hogging it before I start to plow. I would love to get a rollover, but I just can't justify it for only the one small 35 acre parcel. Only about a third of it is really bad, the rest is just canary grass, so I would assume with a good hair cut first it should turn over OK. Thanks again to all the great replies.
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