Permatran Oil

Steve@Advance · Oct 30, 2016

I'm going to be changing the trans/hydraulic oil on a MF1726E compact tractor.

The book calls for AGCO Prematran II oil. I'm not finding any info on Prematran II. I see Permatran III, and Permatran 821XL.

I haven't priced it from AGCO, don't know what would substitute for it...

Anyone know what it is? Or should I just get it from AGCO? It is still under warranty, don't want to do anything wrong, but don't want to spend more than necessary.

Thanks!

Bob Bancroft · Oct 30, 2016

Just a guess..........as I recall, back in the day, AC's hyd/trans fluid was "power fluid 821". Given that you're dealing with Agco, and 821 shows up, I'm guessing it's nothing special.

rustred · Oct 30, 2016

why not just get the info from the agco dealer? i would trust what they say about the oils , and to see which oils meet the original spec's. and that prematran II may be upgraded to the III or 821XL ? as a newer oil shouldnt go backwards, as it should exceed the current oil in use.

showcrop · Oct 30, 2016

The usual advise when checking for correct oil is to compare the specs on the container. Oils have very specific service specs. A smart azz at the dealer could tell you "go ahead and get that cheap (same spec) oil from them, we will be happy to repair the damage"

ptfarmer · Oct 30, 2016

I use Premium Universal Tractor Hydraulic Fluid (not the 303 oil), or you can call AGCO Answers toll free at (877) 525-4384.

Don-Wi · Oct 30, 2016

Perma-tran 821xl is the most recent formulation of it. Before that was Perma-tran III, and before that Perma-tran II. lately we've been using the trans/hydraulic fluid from TSC and fleet farm in our Massey 165 & 285. Works just fine. Not sure what year yours is, but the 285 was made late 70's/early 80's.

Donovan from Wisconsin

Dean · Oct 31, 2016

If your tractor is a hydrostat, don't scrimp on the oil or filter.

Hydrostatic transmissions are not tolerant of incorrect or dirty oil.

I buy the expensive stuff from the dealer for all of mine.

Dean

brutus49DC · Oct 31, 2016

If you have something new enough to have warranty I would suggest buying the correct oil for it as in what is recommended for it. It couldn't have been cheap to buy and now you want to save a few dollars a gallon on oil?

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