Is This AC Refridgerant?

Just wondering if someone can tell me if this is for autos or maybe house ACs? Thanks - Bob

It is R12 which was used in many applications, automotive ac was one of the big ones. But there are lots of old refrigerators and freezers that used it too. It is no longer manufactured or used in new systems. Possession sale and use of it is regulated by the EPA.

You can sell it to a dealer by the pound (at or about 50$) don't bleed it into the air. If you want to dispose of it give it to them. It is the Freon that can't be used any more except in those cases where the vehicle is being kept 100% original. Jim

R12 is still legal for use in the US (Canada not) in older equipment that uses this refrigerant for cooling. It is no longer being manufactured but there is enough reclaimed stuff around to satisfy most of the need, although it can be pretty pricey. FYI converting an R-12 system to R-134a is the most common "fix" for a leaking R-12 unit the result is an approximate 10-12 percent loss of cooling capacity with 134a

R12 is legal to own, just have to have a license to purchase it. It's not worth much of anything, converting to R134a is so easy and the refrigerent is so available, it just makes more sense. Don't know where people are coming up with $50 a pound, I have a license to buy it and would only take it if it was free. Most R12 systems hold 2+ pounds. At $50 a pound, I have already bought conversion fittings and R134a for the same money, and still have another $50 in my pocket.

I still have four machines that take the R12. I know of several tractors and combines still using it. I was told by my John Deere dealer not to change my 4430 over to 134A. They said the condenser was too small in the 4430. 4630 was okay.

134A is on the way out.Causing Global warming if you believe the government. I don't!

(quoted from post at 22:55:25 09/28/16) I was told by my John Deere dealer not to change my 4430 over to 134A. They said the condenser was too small in the 4430. 4630 was okay.

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I think 4430 will cool as well as 4630 utilizing R134A.

PS: Both tractor models mentioned utilize the same size condensers with ironically the same part numbers. AR61885. This condenser(AR61885) is also utilized on a 4040

Ah. the misinformation flies around here.
A lot of this discussion is correct, but there are a few misconceptions here.

First, it is partly correct that you need a "license" to buy R-12. What you need is an EPA certificate. This amounts to attending a class and taking a test. Passing grade on the test gets you an EPA certificate. This certificate is required to legally buy R-12.

Second, price. Depends on where you get it. It is still somewhat available to buy until supplies are exhausted. New production in this country stopped a long time ago. Price includes heavy taxes imposed by the EPA to discourage use of R-12. Price depends on things like age of inventory, locality, etc. Private sales are largely unregulated.

Third, use of R-12 is NOT restricted to systems that "need to be kept original" so to speak. Any system designed for R-12 CAN use it legally. Most times, availability and price determine whether to convert to R-134a.

Lastly, my opinion. A semester spent in General Science class will account for the dreaded "hole in the ozone" that is being blamed on R-12. Science indicates otherwise. Also, a ten minute look at the periodic table of elements and some basic chemistry seems to counter the idea that heavier than air compounds like R-12 are damaging the atmosphere 8 miles high. Everything I learned tells me that the heavier compounds sink - not rise to the top. And, the REAL reason for the phasing out of R-12 in my opinion is the expiration of DuPont's patents. Follow the money.