Hay baling and problems

old · Sep 21, 2016

So I raked the hay this after noon. Started to bale it up and got 7 bales done then clogged the baler. Got that take care of an went to baling again but ran out of gas. Pours more gas in the S88 and started it back up and got maybe 30 feet and it started to run poorly. Would not even run well enough to pull its self back up to the barn. So It was getting dark so gave up. Figure it sucked some junk into the fuel line area so will blow that out tomorrow and see if it will run right.

Still have a good number of windrows so do I turn it over tomorrow before baling it or let it be. Have a fog rolling in so will be a heavy dew tonight

larry@stinescorner · Sep 21, 2016

did you use the Case to rake or the AC?

Northvale - PA · Sep 21, 2016

Yes, turn it.

showcrop · Sep 21, 2016

Better quit trying to extend your gas with water.

old · Sep 21, 2016

Old gas but no water in it as in the gas has sat since say June or so

old · Sep 21, 2016

Used the Case VAC to rake with. Not sure if it sits any better then the WD45 does. Almost seem to be a better ride standing up on the VAC then sitting down. Did run it in 3rd gear

Determined · Sep 21, 2016

With the dew at our place I f I don't kick it over onto dry ground I can't' start baling until 3:00.
Kick it over mid morning and I can get going by 12:00 or 1:00.
Usually just turn as much as I figure I can get done by 4:00 as by then the rest is dry enough on its own.

fixerupper · Sep 21, 2016

When I still had a combine, maybe 20 years ago I ran out of gas in the middle of the field. Walked home, grabbed a 5 gallon pail and filled it with gas without looking in it first. The pail had water in the bottom and it wasn't long after I got the combine running again that I found the error of my way. After dumping the sediment bowl a few times I got so good at it I could take the sediment bowl off, dump it and get it back on before the engine died. As soon as the engine sputtered I would throttle down, run down the ladder and around the combine to the sediment bowl. I didn't even turn the gas off, just held the bowl up there tight till I had the nut loose enough, drop the bowl, dump it and hold it up tight to the gasket and tighten the nut.

Yesterday I got my whopping three acres of alfalfa baled and it was good and dry for the first time this year. The rest of the hay I baled this summer was always a little on the tough side because more rain was forecast for tomorrow.

oc-18guy · Sep 21, 2016

turn it over after the dew burns off the top.let it sit for an hour and your probably good to go.

Fred Werring · Sep 21, 2016

Turn it...drys better, and fluffs up the windrows so they bale better.

At least that's what I do IF I have the time.

Fred

Texasmark1 · Sep 22, 2016

I cut coastal bermuda Tuesday around noon. Temp was 100 per weather man, sun was hot, but humidity was high. Came back around 4 pm with the tedder. Heavy, heavy dew Wed. morning that lasted till 10ish. Hit with the tedder again. By 3 pm, 90+ per the weatherman. It was smelling good. Twist test passed. Raked and had it bailed before supper. Originally figured I'd bail it today (Thursday) but that would have been too late. Just never can tell.

Bill VA · Sep 22, 2016

IMHO - turning it again will fluff it up, but unless the dew mashes it down, it might feed OK. We've toyed with the idea of raking the night before so we can bale ASAP the next day. If the dew is on the hay surface, it would seem to me that the windrow itself would shield the hay in it from dew and so if one leaves the windrow alone, the dew might evaporate opposite it fell. If the hay in the middle of the windrow is dry today (and I gather it was yesterday for baling) and the ground under the windrow is dry, then you might try not raking it or at least one windrow as an experiment.

Can't remember - what make/model baler are you using?

Good luck,
Bill

Traditional Farmer · Sep 22, 2016

You're right just the top of the windrow will be damp but I hate to leave hay in windrows over night just one unexpected little shower will ruin your whole day.

paul · Sep 22, 2016

This year we only can make washed hay here. Moved my wet heavy bales to higher ground yesterday. Looks like the floods broke out north east and south east of me over night, only regular rain over me right now.

Quit worrying about dew back in July, just trying to cut and bale hay between 1 inch rains every 2-3 days......

Jist see on tv SE of me has 8 inches of rain this evening, and the train is still coming.

Paul

Bret4207 · Sep 22, 2016

(quoted from post at 22:26:27 09/21/16) Used the Case VAC to rake with. Not sure if it sits any better then the WD45 does. Almost seem to be a better ride standing up on the VAC then sitting down. Did run it in 3rd gear

I don't know about anyone else, but I have to stand up after a while on most any old tractor. The VAC and Cockshutt 30 are great for this. The 800 Ford ok. The DB990 I have to stand on one foot or put a knee on the seat. My bottom just gets stiff and sore if I sit too long.

showcrop · Sep 22, 2016

(quoted from post at 01:58:03 09/22/16) IMHO - turning it again will fluff it up, but unless the dew mashes it down, it might feed OK. We've toyed with the idea of raking the night before so we can bale ASAP the next day. If the dew is on the hay surface, it would seem to me that the windrow itself would shield the hay in it from dew and so if one leaves the windrow alone, the dew might evaporate opposite it fell. If the hay in the middle of the windrow is dry today (and I gather it was yesterday for baling) and the ground under the windrow is dry, then you might try not raking it or at least one windrow as an experiment.

Can't remember - what make/model baler are you using?

Good luck,
Bill

Bill, raking the night before is SOP in my area of NH. We get heavy dews and there is often moisture in the ground. Next morning we tip them over after the dew is off and it is usually ready after a few hours

Pair-a-dice farm · Sep 22, 2016

(quoted from post at 21:08:33 09/21/16) So I raked the hay this after noon. Started to bale it up and got 7 bales done then clogged the baler. Got that take care of an went to baling again but ran out of gas. Pours more gas in the S88 and started it back up and got maybe 30 feet and it started to run poorly. Would not even run well enough to pull its self back up to the barn. So It was getting dark so gave up. Figure it sucked some junk into the fuel line area so will blow that out tomorrow and see if it will run right.

Still have a good number of windrows so do I turn it over tomorrow before baling it or let it be. Have a fog rolling in so will be a heavy dew tonight

Why would you go to the hay field without filling or at least checking the fuel???? As for the hay, I would wait until the dew dries and turn the windrow and, if possible, wait an hour or 2 before baling.

old · Sep 22, 2016

I NEVER fill any of my tractor with fuel. I did put in 3 gal or so when I started. I never have rust problems by doing ti that way

old · Sep 22, 2016

I'm running a NH850 chain baler. I'll rake it again then go to town for more gas and then blow out the fuel line and add more gas and see if the S88 will let me finish it up

coshoo · Sep 22, 2016

I always thought it was the other way around- keep tank full so you minimize the exposed surface and limit rust. Of course, that's kind of gone by the wayside now, what with the poor fuel- The only thing worse than half a tank of stale gas is a full tank of stale gas.

Pair-a-dice farm · Sep 22, 2016

(quoted from post at 10:50:46 09/22/16) I NEVER fill any of my tractor with fuel. I did put in 3 gal or so when I started. I never have rust problems by doing ti that way

OOOOKaaay, that's a new one on me. But you do what you want. what do you suppose is in the fuel line stopping it up?

RJKeith · Sep 22, 2016

I would wait until the dew dried off, then kick it over, wait about an hour. I am assuming small square bales, if round bales then whatever, they do not need to be nearly as dry. Hope you have better luck today.

Deere54 · Sep 22, 2016

Pipe some of it up here. We are having a drought.
Some say the worst in 50 years.
Northern NY

old · Sep 22, 2016

I pulled the carb drain plug and get a bit of dirt/rust out of the carb and it now seems to run fine again. The gas I poured in did have a bit or water in it so that might be where the problem was.

old · Sep 22, 2016

Here in Missouri it seems that if I leave gas in the tank the gas absorbs water from the air and the water then sits on the bottom of the tank and causes them to rust but empty the tanks do not get water in them. The alcohol in the gas we have now absorbs water badly

Ted in NE-OH · Sep 22, 2016

did you put diesel in a gas tractor?

old · Sep 22, 2016

Don't have any diesel on the place. ALL the tractor on the place any more are gas other then the Diamond-T and the Cat both of which I have not had running in years

Bret4207 · Sep 23, 2016

(quoted from post at 12:43:37 09/22/16) Pipe some of it up here. We are having a drought.
Some say the worst in 50 years.
Northern NY

Where are you at Deere54? I'm up near Ogdensburg/Watertown.

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showcrop · Sep 23, 2016

(quoted from post at 08:33:09 09/22/16) I always thought it was the other way around- keep tank full so you minimize the exposed surface and limit rust. Of course, that's kind of gone by the wayside now, what with the poor fuel- The only thing worse than half a tank of stale gas is a full tank of stale gas.

I keep my tanks full in order to minimize the amount of air going in and out with heat cool cycles. Cool air gets drawn in the late afternoon, bringing water vapor with it. It cools off more overnight leaving condensation on any exposed tank inside surface.

old · Sep 23, 2016

Every one I keep gas in gets rusty tanks and the one I let run out the tanks stay nice and rust free

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