Ford 4000 - possible to use rear hydro w/o removing bucket?

Goober2 · Aug 13, 2016

This is a real newbie question, but is there any way to use the rear hydraulic hose sockets for an implement, and keep the front loader bucket in a lifted position, without having to remove the front loader bucket, which currently is connected to the rear hydraulics? This is a Ford 4000 (gas, 3 cyl).

flying belgian · Aug 13, 2016

Sure, if you have a hyd. bucket just let it in the dangle position and unhook the bucket outlets. If you have a mechanical trip bucket, you can cut some 2x4s to fit over your loader cylinders and hold the
bucket a few feet off the ground and unplug those remotes. I've done both.

Goober2 · Aug 13, 2016

Thanks for the reply. Still unclear whether I can raise the bucket to any point off the ground, then unhook the hoses and it will stay put, or is there some specific "dangle" position -- if the latter, how far up is that, or is it marked in some way?

BTW, this is a stock hydro loader which I think originally came with the Ford 4000. As normal, there are 4 cylinders powering it, one on each side to raise and lower the arms, and another pair to change the angle of the bucket.

There are two hoses coming from the loader, connecting to the hydro outlets behind the seat. Is it that a different set powers the arms, and the rear pair of hoses might only do the bucket angle?

bison · Aug 13, 2016

Chain the bucket to the loader so it can't dump and unhook the hoses.

caterpillar guy · Aug 14, 2016

As Flying Belgian said just cut some stops for the cylinders. You could also use some angle iron just put a rag between the shaft and the angle iron. Several layers. Then chain the bucket back so it can't sag. Then use the remotes for whatever you want to. If this is going to be a regular thing I would get a power beyond plate for it. Will save you time and aggravation in the long run.

mikelf · Aug 14, 2016

Should be a lever under the seat that directs flow . push lever forward to direct flow to bucket pull back to direct flow to 3 point hitch

mikelf · Aug 14, 2016

push lever forward ----position your bucket --- move lever back --- disconnect hoses
that was from a old ford guy It works on mine

centash · Aug 14, 2016

The pair of hoses coming from the outlets will go to your loaders control valve to
operate all the cylinders . You can disconnect both hoses and the loader will stay in
that position, allowing you to use the outlets for other purposes, just don't touch
the loader control. The loader will however, tend to work it's way down, especially
if driving the tractor through the field. Thus, propping it as suggested is
necessary. The best way is to have separate source of oil to the loader, and save
the hassle, and having oil continuously flowing through the valve. Ben

GaryinKs · Aug 14, 2016

Why not just add another spool valve?

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