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Russ from MN
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- Bemidji MN
It's obvious that there are too many deer in some area, and it's one solution. They did it with wolves in a national park out west and it reduced the deer herd and the natural vegetation came back. Part of the problem is the declining number of hunters. If you don't like this solution buy a license and go out and get a deer! We have way too many rabbits in N MN, they are eating our spruce trees! We need more bobcats or coyotes!
Deutz Lover
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See Kaibab plateau. Of course you would have to wall off New Jersey for a couple of years.
Around here - the deer are plentiful. They introduced wolfs or coyotes (can't remember) - whatever they are, they're a BIG shaggy dog!
I remember as a boy walking around the farm - pitch black, no fear what so ever. Now - I wonder what's out there. Adding cougars to the mix (which the rumor mill has said for decades - they are already here) makes no sense to me.
I think they ought to introduce another native species from Earth to combat deer - MAN!!!!!!!
Hunting has been in decline for a long time, it is not helpful that that hunting license fees are through the roof, some folks frown on hunting (even though they have zero problem having a steak or burger at a restaurant) and much more sports activities, computer gaming - in a lot of ways, by necessity - two parents working and many meals are whatever is picked up on the way home; there is just no time - but there should be IMHO.
Sometimes I wonder if the best of times is in the rear view mirror.....
Bill
I remember as a boy walking around the farm - pitch black, no fear what so ever. Now - I wonder what's out there. Adding cougars to the mix (which the rumor mill has said for decades - they are already here) makes no sense to me.
I think they ought to introduce another native species from Earth to combat deer - MAN!!!!!!!
Hunting has been in decline for a long time, it is not helpful that that hunting license fees are through the roof, some folks frown on hunting (even though they have zero problem having a steak or burger at a restaurant) and much more sports activities, computer gaming - in a lot of ways, by necessity - two parents working and many meals are whatever is picked up on the way home; there is just no time - but there should be IMHO.
Sometimes I wonder if the best of times is in the rear view mirror.....
Bill
TomH in PA
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Coyotes are common here in PA. Plenty of bears and bobcats too, although only attack I've heard about was a bobcat with rabies.
I'd rather not have to worry about cougars (the feline kind); they'd probably have more to fear from humans than vice versa even if the law protects them.
I'd rather not have to worry about cougars (the feline kind); they'd probably have more to fear from humans than vice versa even if the law protects them.
One way to reduce the deer herds would be to restrict the number of antler permits and issue 90 percent of the deer permits as doe tags. After ten years the number of deer remaining would be smaller. Hunting the bucks and leaving the does did little to reduce the birth rate in deer herds.
Adirondack case guy
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Just let the Amish move in. Over poupulation of deer goes away real fast. Boundry lines and game laws mean nothing to them.
Loren
Loren
Similar thinking and management has got us into the over-population problem with kangaroos in this part of Australia. They're prolific breeders - one out of the pouch, one in the pouch and one on standby. So with no harvesting of does and small males it is a sporting kangaroo's paradise.
And it is about 1.5 kangaroos = 1 sheep in grazing pressure. And if you can't control grazing pressure you don't have range management.
And it is about 1.5 kangaroos = 1 sheep in grazing pressure. And if you can't control grazing pressure you don't have range management.
Kansas4010
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Yep they released some around here just a few miles away from me. Instead of extending the hunting season to control deer they did this. They're also tagged and tracked. If one gets shot they know were to go looking.
Rollie NE PA
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There was a article in the local newspaper about the cougars last week. In my area there are to many deer. I have electric fence around some of my crops and the deer have been ripping it down on a regular basis. They will not run from you unless you get within 40 yards of them.
Several years ago the game commission introduced Fishers to kill the porcupines. I don't think they got the results they wanted.
Several years ago the game commission introduced Fishers to kill the porcupines. I don't think they got the results they wanted.
Traditional Farmer
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So far all I've seen the Eastern Coyotes kill are farm animals and feral house cats.They're rough on goats and poultry,quit renting one pasture after they killed 2 calves.
MarkB_MI
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- Motown USA
We have no shortage of deer around our place. Nor do we have a shortage of hunters; I sometimes find their stands on our property. Conclusion: Hunters do a lousy job of controlling the deer population.
Mark - IN.
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Don't get me going on government "experts". Michigan DNR did that on the southern Michigan and northern Indiana border about 10 years ago and denied, denied, denied until they were forced to admit it. Those cats keep about a 50 mile radius that they like to make their own, and anything in it, particularly small animals, livestock. People were catching them on video and turning it over to TV stations, tails as long as their bodies. DNR was saying wild house cats on the loose that easily grew to be three or four feet long and that much more of tail. People encountering them directly in their yards, up in trees. The one that finally got them to admit it was when a horse up around Berrien Springs, MI. got mauled on its back, neck, and head so bad that it had to be put down. News crew was out there when a DNR guy was telling the upset farmers that the horse was taken down by a pack of wild dogs. One of the farmers took the "expert" up to the carcass and showed him that the claw marks each had five nails, then schooled the "expert" that cats have five nails, dogs have four and an unusable dew claw. It was only after that incident that DNR admitted that they released three to keep down the deer. They're all GPS chipped, so don't be getting no ideas about taking one out, UNLESS you plan to load its carcass up in the bed of the pickup, drive down the road and dump it in a river. You don't want to get caught with one.
Mark
Mark
A great idea until the left decides to put a moratorium on hunting cougar. They did that in Ca in the 60's - 70's I believe and now the black tail herd has been decimated. In some areas they have taken to attacking pets and on occasion humans. I recall areas where the deer population was robust, now you don't see any deer. It's like introducing wolves in Idaho and not controlling their population. In some zones the wolves have all but wiped out the elk and deer herds. Learning that lesson they can now be hunted to keep their population in balance with the deer and elk.
T in NE
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- Cambridge, Nebraska
Most hunters aren't after a deer. They are after the calcium deposit on the deer's head.
Tell them they can take a buck after they get a doe. If they don't, kick them out.
Tell them they can take a buck after they get a doe. If they don't, kick them out.
T in NE
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- Cambridge, Nebraska
The biggest problem with wild critter management is that too many people setting policy think Bambi was a documentary.
Brown Swiss
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One silly idea comes to mind, take people off of welfare and tell them if they want to eat go buy some food with money they earned from working and can hunt some deer.
I had 40 to 50 dear chowing down on 6 acres of alalafa hay each night, They have destroyed it cant even plow it up and reseed, they destroy it as it comes up. I've tried. It is nothing to see 200+ dear in a corn field after the corn has been shelled. Idiots from the dnr decided to cut the number of tags by several thousand last year in this county alone. My 1 acre of sweet corn has 4 electric wires running around it and they destroy the fence as fast as you can put it back up. Should have been 12 to $14000.00 income this year for the grandsons college. Wont get enough to pay for the new fencer. Garden within 30 feet of the house is completely destroyd. You people planting these food plots don't know the problems you are creating. We need hundreds more doe tags every year for this township alone, thousands more for the county. When Dnr is asked to pay for damage -- we are advised to file certain forms and deduct the damage from income tax. I told the last 1 we would gladly built a fence around the govenors mansion and dump 3 or 4 dozen deer inside the fence or do the same thing at his house. They don't see any humor in that.
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