My own Amsoil post.

Well I usually let things like this go , but not this time.
I am totally amazed that more than one person has their head so far up in the rear end ( big part of what's going wrong in this country these days ) that they cannot make a correlation between complaining about high priced Amsoil which was not meeting their expectations and claims for long life being bogus in another persons trucking test and asking if another certain oil was also tested which may offer better protection at a lower cost. Some of us CAN keep an open mind and ask questions in seek of a related answer and not get our nnalert in a wad !

If someone starts a post and you respond with a new a different subject that is called Hijacking the post. As you use the computer you learn there is an order to these forums and certain rules to keep order. In the previous discussion you asked another poster an unrelated question ignoring my question . So I pointed it out.

The topic at hand was motorcycle oil, not heavy duty diesel oil.

If the manufacturer recommends using full synthetic oil, then that's what one should use. Manufacturers typically have thousands of hours of dyno time to back up their recommendations.

Let us now discuss the true reason for the high price on Amsoil by me hi-jacking my own thread ! LOL !

Simple formula. Amsoil = Amway = MLM (multilevel marketing) AKA pyramid scheme. At least that's how they started out in life.

(quoted from post at 08:13:00 07/13/16) Simple formula. Amsoil = Amway = MLM (multilevel marketing) AKA pyramid scheme. At least that's how they started out in life.

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Exactly. And they flood the media with so much hype you have trouble finding an honest comparison. I have one vehicle that I use synthetic in and have stuck with Castrol. I just wait until it goes on sale.

In my defense I missunderstood the original post, when the op said something about getting a million miles out of it I thought he was asking about amzoil's ability to achieve that, I realized later that was not what he was after. And since we can't edit a post anymore I just let it go. I wouldn't get your nnalert in too much of a bunch over it tho, these things happen and the beauty of the internet is that you can ignor anything you dont like.

I've told this story before but I'll tell it again. A neighbor bought a new 1086 in the fall of 1978. I bought a new 1086 on Jan 31 of 1979. Both of us take good care of our machinery, meaning we don't abuse it. The only difference is he was sucked into Amsoil hook line and sinker, abiding by their extended oil changes. I used regular oil from my IH dealer and changed oil and filter every 100 hours. At 5000 hours both of us did an overhaul, new P&S, valve job, bearings, etc. He replaced the oil pump, I did not. Mine was drinking oil like there was no tomorrow because of defective sleeves. I didn't know there was a recall on those sleeves till a year after I did the overhaul, the dealer kept quiet about it. The neighbor might have had the defective sleeves too but I can't verify it.

We ran similar hours and both of us did an overhaul at 10,000 hours. His oil press was dropping, mine was dropping too. I overhauled mine to freshen it up as it was my main horse. The main reason for my oil pressure drop was the oil pump. His second oil pump was worn out, he had to have the crank turned 10 and his cam was beyond tolerances. My original factory oil pump was worn out but it had 5000 more hours than his, the crank was still shiny as a mirror and at the original factory measurements The cam was about 2/3 on the way to replacement by using a dial indicator measuring the lift. Now my 1086 has 17000 hours, or 7000 hours on the last overhaul. The oil pressure is still right up there and it might use a quart of oil per 100 hour oil change. However, it doesn't see hard field use anymore. Nuff said!

Hello Mike M,

I let that one go as well. Here is what I know. 1976 was the year the company had the entire fleet switches to synthetic Mobil 1 and Delvac 15W40. One year on the crankcase and regular oil filter change, and make up oil as needed. We also took engine oil samples, and quickly addressed any issues. It was the 15w40 Delavac multi viscosity diesel oil that some engine OEM'M said NO NO on its use. I left the company in 1995 (RETIRED) and we had zero oil related engine failure. I did meet the engineers that were developing the oil a couple of years before that. We were given a specially marked drum for the first test engine. I was with the rest of the crew, testing the oil without knowing what it was.
I believe that was the year that Mobil went Nation wide selling the product. Use it on all my vehicles ever since.
Former Mobil Oil only Lead Mechanic..............

Guido.

One thing about it Mike, you have been a great help to this board and myself, especially with the JD questions. Don't let it get to you. Keep doing what you are doing - Bob

The reason Amsoil is so expensive is because that's what the market will bear. They can make more money selling limited quantities in specialty shops rather than try to compete with the big oil companies on the shelves of Wally World.

Whether or not a 13 dollar bottle of Amsoil is better than a ten dollar bottle of Mobil One is besides the point. They are marketing their product as a premium oil with a premium price. As long as enough rubes, --er customers, I mean-- believe that to be true, the Amsoil execs will be laughing all the way to the bank.

I for one will stick with Amsoil in my motorcycle even if it does cost 11.50 a quart.

So many GREAT guys have left because of stupid stuff like this.
Too bad !
But there are still a lot of GREAT ones left too.

The McCook, Nebraska wally world has either amsoil or royal purple on the shelf now.