Ammsoil or bike dealer Who's insane?

dr sportster · Jul 12, 2016

I went to a Ducati shop today for an oil filter and figured { knowing it is a mistake and not going to auto parts for cheaper] picked up a quart of Ammsoil to look at . It had a price of $12.35 a quart. If it made the engine last a million miles I would not pay 12 dollars a quart for oil. How much is a quart of Ammsoil from a dealer?

jon f mn · Jul 12, 2016

Good luck getting more than anyone else on engine life from that. Long term tests over milliins of miles show no advantage to that over standard oil and significantly less life if you follow amzoil's extended change intervals on truck engines. There was so much extra engine trouble with their extended change program that dart won't allow it for their lease trucks and won't help out a driver financially with repairs if they use it. They don't care if you use amzoil as long as you changenat the regular intervals.

Mike M · Jul 12, 2016

Jon: You know anyone using Schaffer's oil in there big rigs ? Around me I think there are a few.

dr sportster · Jul 12, 2016

Well, Mike this post was about the price of Ammsoil . If you want ask about a different oil start your own post . It's quite easy.

Hotflashjr · Jul 12, 2016

I believe it is roughly a $4 mark-up that guy is making on that if you were looking at synthetic metric bike 10-30 or 10-40. I used to have a Ducati ST2 about 10 years ago. Great bike. E-mail is open if you want to know the exact price and if interested I could help you out on the oil.

Two Dogs · Jul 12, 2016

It's easy being nice too. Try it sometime. TDF

Ozlander · Jul 12, 2016

(quoted from post at 15:14:46 07/12/16) It's easy being nice too. Try it sometime. TDF

And it's rude to post off thread in somebody else's thread.

jon f mn · Jul 12, 2016

No I don't. When dart ran the test they tried 3 different synthetics but I only knew about the and oil brand. I was part of the test but was in the rotella group.

01gentdc · Jul 12, 2016

I like schaffers oil ,, but don't use it anymore ,, I think my 318 86 dodge enjoyed a long healthy life because of about 6 oil changes of that and havoline oil the balance of changes ,, and 5ooo mile filter and oil change intervals have to help.. my neighbor went full bore with amsoil about 25 yrs ago on his 318 85 dodge ,. no filter change needed for 50,000 miles I recall him saying ,./ he already had 50 k on the truck , by the time he had 90k the motor was worn out, needed needed overhaul ,,. mite of been from scremin pulling a trailer in 4wheel drive ,too , , but my 318 has endured worse treatment..

01gentdc · Jul 12, 2016

it is ,, but sheesh,, we don't always have to be p-c , and perfectly nice in our own shop ,, just sayim

Russ from MN · Jul 12, 2016

I got frustrated with local selection and prices last fall so we ordered a 6 quart case of Castrol full synthetic MC oil, and I don't think it was over $6 a quart, I needed 6 quarts to do both bikes.

John M · Jul 12, 2016

I checked wit ha fried who sells it. He said anywhere from 12 to 14 dollars depending on type is normal.

db4600 · Jul 12, 2016

Kinda puts a wrinkle in the term "Discussion
Forum". I'm gonna go to the "Like Thinkers" page
now.

INCase · Jul 12, 2016

That price is about right for AMSOIL suggested retail price depending on which flavour of MC oil you were looking at. mark-up is only 25% between dealer cost and suggested retail $ so you won't find too many MC dealers offering much of a deal on it.

how much was the Ducati factory oil? i'm sure it was right up there too.

as usual, motor oil and politics will get the opinions coming out.

Rollie NE PA · Jul 12, 2016

I pay 11.50 a quart for Amsoil 20/50 V Twin oil from the local NAPA dealer. Six years ago I bought a 1998 Sportster. I used the regular Harley oil and I would have to add some oil at 1,000 miles. When I switched to Amsoil I don't have to add any oil.

Gambles · Jul 12, 2016

Forgive me if I'm posting off-thread in somebody else's thread, but aren't Amsoil's prices going up 6% on August 1st?
Seems I heard that they didn't lower their prices when the crude oil dropped, but now they claim that they've got to raise prices since crude oil is on the rise.

MarkB_MI · Jul 13, 2016

I use Mobil One 4T motorcycle oil for my Triumph, and Mobil One V-Twin for my wife's Sportster. Depending on where you buy it, these oils run 9 to 13 bucks a quart. (I usually buy mine at Wally World for $10/qt.) Full-synthetic motorcycle oil is expensive.

Why so much? Well, it has a picture of a motorcycle on the front, of course!

Why not just use automotive oil? With dino oil it's not that big of a deal; there's not a lot of difference between automotive and motorcycle oil. But you can run into problems with synthetic oil in a bike with a wet clutch (which means pretty much all motorcycles besides BMW and, interestingly, some Ducatis). The friction modifiers in synthetic oils can cause clutch slip. I used automotive synthetic in my Yamaha Virago, but I wouldn't try it in the Triumph. So the oil companies leave out the modifiers in motorcycle oil and give it a JASO "MA" rating. Naturally it costs more to leave something out!

showcrop · Jul 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 13:21:39 07/12/16)

(quoted from post at 15:14:46 07/12/16) It's easy being nice too. Try it sometime. TDF

Click to expand...

And it's rude to post off thread in somebody else's thread.

When did that rule get voted in? :?

ss55 · Jul 13, 2016

Non-synthetic automotive engine oils newer than SF also have friction modifiers that will damage wet clutches.

BarnyardEngineering · Jul 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 15:36:42 07/12/16) Kinda puts a wrinkle in the term "Discussion
Forum". I'm gonna go to the "Like Thinkers" page
now.

Well, the OP wanted to have a discussion about the price of Amsoil oil. If you're going to be rude and ask about something completely unrelated to the subject at hand, you should expect a rude response.

You can't be rude and then demand all others be polite to you. It don't work that way. That's not PC, that's hypocrisy and arrogance.

Shaffer's has no more to do with the price of Amsoil as it has to do with the price of tea in China.

Married2Allis · Jul 13, 2016

What is the "dr" in "dr sportster"?

Meangreen · Jul 13, 2016

(quoted from post at 20:29:33 07/12/16) I went to a Ducati shop today for an oil filter and figured { knowing it is a mistake and not going to auto parts for cheaper] picked up a quart of Ammsoil to look at . It had a price of $12.35 a quart. If it made the engine last a million miles I would not pay 12 dollars a quart for oil. How much is a quart of Ammsoil from a dealer?

I have used Amsoil in my vehicles for years running them anywhere from a year to two years on an oil change. No problems. I have friends who have been using it longer with no issues.

To your point on price, if you go through their website you pay a $20 annual membership and then you can get oil for around $8.75 a quart. Depending on how much you need annually this can save you quite a bit.

dr sportster · Jul 13, 2016

The Ducati factory oil is Agip which is European . The dealer had Ammsoil in the bike new . I did not want to break in on synthetic so at 500 miles I switched to Mobile [non-synthetic].

dr sportster · Jul 13, 2016

I was .

dr sportster · Jul 13, 2016

I wasn't trying to be rude .Just pointing out a hijack in case the guy didn't know about starting a new post.

MarkB_MI · Jul 13, 2016

> Non-synthetic automotive engine oils newer than SF also have friction modifiers that will damage wet clutches.

Sure, newer oils have friction modifiers, but I've never heard of anyone having problems using anything other than synthetic automobile oils. "Damage" is a bit strong; as long as the oil is changed immediately to an MA-rated oil at the first sign of slippage, the clutch should be fine. Of course, every bike is different, YMMV.

Scout2008 · Jul 13, 2016

I use Amsoil in my 1991 Ducati 900ss. I think I pay close to $12 a quart, and it takes 2.5 quarts. I have run synthetic in all my Ducati's, but I have settled on Amsoil. I was told long ago "oil is cheap, motors are expensive". I always try to run the best cause rebuilding a Ducati motor is definitely not cheap! A friend had a dealer tell him not to use Amsoil in his Suzuki saying it would make the clutch slip...glad the Ducati uses a dry clutch! Lol

T in NE · Jul 14, 2016

You would think tire prices would come down with oil being off, too.

T in NE · Jul 14, 2016

Is Schaeffer's like CenPeCo or Frontier? Premium dino oil in a shiny barrel that your dealer has drop shipped to you?

My BTO former employer told me use the good Frontier oil in the tractors, only use the Cenex semi-synthetic Maxtron DEO in the gas engines. The Steiger used a gallon of oil twice as often When topped off with the frontier as when topped off with the "cheap" Cenex diesel engine oil.

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