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T in NE

T in NE

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Location
Cambridge, Nebraska
Cummins is working on getting their 2.8l F series 4 cylinder certified as a street legal crate motor. If they can do it with a couple others maybe the car companies would start selling glider kits (sure!)

I think Dodge May have missed a big opportunity with this with the 5 liter v8. Other than the off-road magazines saying it gives you hemi performance and fuel mileage for a lot more money.
 
Would be nice to have a few more diesel options. We bought a 2015 Chevy Cruze diesel last summer, 32k miles so far, great little car, just wish it was a wagon. Fuel milage is amazing, 60mpg in the summer, about 50mpg in the winter, 700 odd miles on a tank of fuel (40 dollars). And goes like the wind...
 
It's a semi with no engine so u can use an older engine with a new truck and not have all the emissions crap
 
I don't know, but I have heard that they (government) was supposedly shutting that down soon, or that there was a date set when you could no longer do that. I don't know if that is true, but it wouldn't surprise me at all.
 
Hello 4520BW,

I have not heard that term for years. Are those glider kits still out there?


Guido.
 
Yes gliders are still out there. One of the local truck dealers do a bunch of them. There is a cutoff date so don't use to old engines.
 
I got half way through a truck paper last week and there were several companies advertising gliders.

Eventually there's going to be a lot of 4 to 5 million mile trucks on the road just to avoid the emissions junk. And paperless logs. The pair of ISXs at work went from 2.5 to 4.5 mpg after doing full deletes. Don't know what kind of numbers they are pushing, but if you don't behave and use that 13 speed right, they can still get 2.5 mpg.

Swapping the 3.70 gears for 3.58s got another half mpg, swapping on down to 3.36s would probably get another half.
 
Nissan hasn?t announced fuel economy ratings, but they are expected to be less than the "Dodge" EcoDiesel and land somewhere mid pack within the truck segment - around 22 to 24 highway.

Given all the emissions that both have to deal with I think I'd rather have a Ecoboost. What I've read and seen of the Dodge V6 diesel (horrible power - friend says is like 1990 and he has a Ford 300 I6 again) its not going to be much of player. The Nissan might be a hit at first but after the urban "truck" owners deal with DEF and high diesel prices I except the grunting to go away fast.
 
Have a Dodge 1500 diesel, No, it won't match the Ecoboost Ford on power, but it isn't bad either - I sure don't consider mine under powered at all. Mileage on mine is well under what people say they will get, but from what I've heard about the ecoboost, they can get some impressive numbers when everything is 'right', but if worked ( and they will PULL!) mileage really drops. My 'baby diesel' is pretty steady on mileage, have 'worked' it a couple times and still managed to stay on the + side of 19mpg. However, it's my 'car' if you will, plus chases machinery parts, hauls mineral/salt blocks, runs all the errands, does the road trips and etc. I haven't towed anything significant with it. (Got a 1 ton for that). Guess it's whatever a person needs, My little diesel makes frequent trips down 80 mph interstates with no problem and gets + 20 mpg doing it.
 
I have not looked at pricing, but I suspect the smaller diesels are like the larger versions, and considerably more, then couple that with DEF and I suspect increased maintenance costs over long term, the only way I would look at a diesel pickup would be an older heavy duty pickup for lots of towing use, then it would have to be well cared for and lower mileage. Hard to justify.
 
The 4 wheel drive magazines that have run them say the 6.2 hemi is more fun to drive and gets the same fuel mileage.

Pretty sad when a 3/4 ton Dodge gas truck is outperforming your half ton diesel.

I'd like to know what happened to the v6 they were supposedly developing beside the v8.

The ISF (2.8) i-4 would be better suited to lightweight older jeeps and suvs and such, that's who they Will target with the crate motor. I think I know a dozen guys who would ditch their original Isuzu 4 cylinders if they can afford it.
 
The salesman for the new Pete's at work told us not IF, but WHEN the the exhaust system, DPF, etc, needs to be replaced, it will be around $15,000 to replace it. Gonna miss the $200 mufflers lol.
 
You should be able to delete it for that much, and not have to replace all that again.
Actually if you delete them now, you still have good parts to put back on for resale.
 
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