terminology - longish

wjytexas · Jun 5, 2016

At times a poster (one who posts) is chastised for using the "wrong" word or term for something. The participants of these forums are a very diverse group from not just
all over the U.S. but the world. We all have different levels of education, experience and are of different ages and cultures. Restoration means one thing to one person
and something else to another. From my view point multi-layers of glossy enamel and a clear coat do not make a restoration on a '50's era tractor. To some just getting it
running again is a restoration. I like to say my tractor has been rehabilitated. I had an discussion with a neighbor about cotter key vs cotter pin. How many terms are
there for a disc, disc harrow, two way, one way, disc plow, etc? I have always thought these forums are for educations as well as camaraderie. Some responses seem to be a
little harsh when a responder doesn't agree. A disadvantage to written comments is that the tone or mood of the response isn't as easily read as heard. My epistle for
this fine Texas Sunday morning without a flood warning for my area. Y'all have a great day.

RBoots · Jun 5, 2016

I believe you are right. I myself am not aN expert paint man. The tractors on our farm are not the pretty ones with fancy paint. They are here to work. But, they are all very well maintained. I spend all winter after fall harvest going over things on them. For as old as they are, they can all do their jobs. Sometimes I run out of time trying to get my stuff done as well as everyone else's that wants winter work done. Winter is also my busy time at work, but, I do things every year to make them a little better. Sooner or later it will be paint, but that doesn't make them any more useful in the field. If I have a tractor I am working on for myself, it gets all new seals, all bearings checked over and relaxed if needed, and all new gaskets. ALL. Front to back. Why not? If you're doing an engine, you're already halfway there.

Ross

Russ from MN · Jun 5, 2016

I notice a difference in dialect in just 50 miles, probably because of family background more than geography. I had a boss for many years that was fussy about vocabulary, but it's important in an industrial maintenance environment that everyone speaks the same language! It became more evident with the use of computers to order parts, out system needed to know the right name for the part or it didn't exist. I get a kick out of the word y'all, it seems to be more common all the time, is it in the dictionary?

tim s · Jun 5, 2016

I agree completely..we are Farmers and Mechanics sharing ideas not novelist.or screen writers..

Tom OConnor · Jun 5, 2016

WJY,

Great post. The same part can have many different names like a clevis to a farmer is a shackle to a seaman on a sail boat. I have gone into an electrical supply house or plumbing supply place many
times knowing exactly what I wanted but for the life of me I didn't know what to tell the parts man what it is technically called. I have always thanked them for understanding my ignorance and having patience with me while I have described what the part looks like or its purpose. Will Rogers always said we are all ignorant in different subjects.

TomH in PA · Jun 5, 2016

"Y'all have a great day."

That should be "Yunz have a great day" (to those of us in Western PA) ;^)

Bruce from Can. · Jun 5, 2016

I notice no one types with an accent . Just imagine how different we would all sound if you could hear our voices , and not just read the words we write. When I have traveled through some of the northern states, I find folks talked just like I do,but In the south and southwest ,very different . Of course , I just have to travel east to the next province and it is like I have driven to Europe. lol Most folks are very tolerant of others mistakes, but some people are just too picky.

cool hand · Jun 5, 2016

Oh, the "parts man!" Sometimes he seemingly loves to give one a hassle. Such as in one visit when asked for a "throw out bearing" he'll say "you mean a clutch release bearing?" The next time you ask for the "clutch release bearing" he'll say "you mean the throw out bearing?" Same guy! Years ago one parts guy was particularly known for this. I sent my wife to the dealership the get a tractor wheel-axle clamp bolt. She asked me if it was for the right or left side. I said that it made no difference. She said , "I know that he will ask." So, I told her it was the left one, and sure enough, he asked, just to give her a bit of a hassle!

Jaden · Jun 5, 2016

While I do not have a southern background, I like the term "y'all". It can mean a whole group or at the same time; each one of you.

JMOR · Jun 5, 2016

(quoted from post at 12:25:37 06/05/16) WJY,

Great post. The same part can have many different names like a clevis to a farmer is a shackle to a seaman on a sail boat. I have gone into an electrical supply house or plumbing supply place many
times knowing exactly what I wanted but for the life of me I didn't know what to tell the parts man what it is technically called. I have always thanked them for understanding my ignorance and having patience with me while I have described what the part looks like or its purpose. Will Rogers always said we are all ignorant in different subjects.

ometimes the wrong term is the correct one to use! In A/C supply place, the regulars in the business come in and ask for 'comfat' and all is well......the two are communicating with the accepted "trade slang".. You on the other hand come in and ask for same item by the refrigeration text book proper name & the counter man and everyone else standing around immediately know that you are an interloper, messing in 'their business' and are very likely to mess with you mind & maybe not even sell to you.

JOCCO · Jun 5, 2016

Some places would call them fellas JERKS. There are lots of them and they been around all my life!!!

wjytexas · Jun 5, 2016

I like that

Moonlite37 · Jun 5, 2016

I only had two parts men to get smart. One I asked for a transmission bayonett for a Corvair transmission at a Chevrolet dealer parts man. He was a smart and I told him that some people called it a dip stick

Another I asked for a 10-32 nut and the smartazz told me that it was a 5/16 and I did not know my common fractions. Another parts man told me that he was sure I knew what I wanted but he had no idea of how to find it.

JerryS · Jun 5, 2016

Correct, but never will you hear a true southerner say "Ya'll" referring to only one person, despite what you might have heard over and over on TV. True, the speaker might be addressing only one person, but if he says "Ya'll", the implied reference is to the person spoken to as well as his family or friends other unnamed associates. Clear as mud, huh?

jm. · Jun 5, 2016

At 73 years of age and having been raised in an IH dealership,farming, and owning a dealership for 28 years there is many things on here I could comment on but for the reason you just discussed most time I just read it and pass on. Sometimes it amasses me what so of these folks think and in most instances they have been told it is that way. I do really like to read this board though just for that reason.

Steve@Advance · Jun 5, 2016

"Y'all" can be singular or plural.
But to be all inclusive, there's also the term "allo' y'all".

"Y'all goin' to tha Nascar race tomorrow?"

"Yep, me an the wife and 7 of the kids is goin'."

"So allo' y'all is goin'?"

"Yep".

pete 23 · Jun 5, 2016

The military has their own names for some tools also. A valve spring compressor tool is listed as a valve lifter. When I would go to the tool room and ask for the valve lifter, all the wise guys said that was an engine part and not a tool. Supposed to use the correct name when checking out a tool. Had to show a few what it was listed as in their book. Also, not military, but what most all of us call a side cutter is technically a diaganol plier.

RBoots · Jun 5, 2016

A lot of guys around here call 'em side dikes

Ross

willie in mn · Jun 5, 2016

And he doesn't know his fractions either. 10-32 is 3/16 fine thread, 10-24 is 3/16 course thread.
Willie

Mike(NEOhio) · Jun 5, 2016

I worked with a rigger out of Elkhart, In. moving a couple of presses. What I called a clevis was a shackle to them. We had some discussion on the matter.

led · Jun 5, 2016

How about a 710 cap on car engine ??
Led

flying belgian · Jun 5, 2016

Here I go being the picky one but RBoots are you saying you don't like the "pretty ones with fancy paint"? Orrr you do like them but just haven't had time to do yours yet?

guido · Jun 5, 2016

Hello jm,

I call it entertainment at times. Some wife's tales are real tall at times. Like you I just read and move on,

GUIDO.

showcrop · Jun 5, 2016

(quoted from post at 17:24:06 06/05/16) How about a 710 cap on car engine ??
Led

All the 710 caps now days have a lot of additional numbers.

showcrop · Jun 5, 2016

You will run into those people who love to correct harshly no matter where you go. It is pride. They feel that they are elevating themselves by putting others down. Hopefully they get their comeuppance sooner rather than later. We can all get turned around.

led · Jun 5, 2016

Look at that 710 cap with a mirror.
Led

wilson ind · Jun 5, 2016

At risk of being considered a jerk or any other comment which in my opinion does not describe me, I will say a clevis has no threads . A shackle has one eyelet threaded and is usually accompanied with a matching threaded pin. In years past I have had many union iron workers on my payroll as well as for a time owning a farm supply store. Never have I noticed one or the other of the men mixing up the proper terms for the fore mentioned items.

T in NE · Jun 5, 2016

Southwest PA. Northwest PA has its own dialect.

showcrop · Jun 6, 2016

(quoted from post at 18:57:24 06/05/16) Look at that 710 cap with a mirror.
Led

No need to. Read my post again,LOL.

jimg.allentown · Jun 6, 2016

Try again. As the sizes get smaller, they go from 1/4 down to 3/16 down to #12 to #10. A 10-32 is decidedly smaller than 3/16. Don't take my word for it. Measure them for yourself.

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