Are Inner Tubes Neccesary in Front Tires?

North40 · Apr 26, 2016

I have a Series 1 (1959) Allis D17. One of my front tires has been going flat. It has an inner tube in it, but the tire and rim both look pretty nice.

Is there any reason I can't just break the bead, pull the tube out, pop in a valve stem and go tubeless? :?:

Mark W. · Apr 26, 2016

If its going flat that's not going to help. There has to be a hole in the outer tire for the air from the tube to escape. The tube is leaking at the valve stem.

North40 · Apr 26, 2016

Yes. I'm pretty sure the valve stem is leaking. I can see a crack in the rubber there. But my question is whether I can put a tubeless type valve stem in the hole and go without a tube.

onefarmer · Apr 26, 2016

It can be done but. It depends on the condition of the tire and rim, If you can get a good seal. If the tire has no leaks in the casing. if if if. But for the cost of a stem you can give it a try.

North40 · Apr 26, 2016

I suppose it doesn't cost much to try.

notjustair · Apr 26, 2016

I wouldn't. When you run over a nail or something you will have to plug that tire. I've never had a problem with a plug, but a tire with several makes me very nervous. Some rims won't ever seal good for you, especially considering age. I'd replace that tube and not look back. I run tubes in all of the tractor tires here except for the newest FWA tractor. It has radials and hasn't ever had a tube and I've had no repairs. It's new enough that the rims were designed for use without tubes.

DeltaRed · Apr 26, 2016

I used to have a tractor with tubeless fronts. kept pushing the bead off and they wnt instantly flat.Also got dirt between the
rim and tire causeing slow leals. Also,the tire has to be made to be used as tubeless.It will be marked/labeled for tubeless
use.Check the rim,if rusty,it will leak.Buy a new tube and be done with it.

jon f mn · Apr 26, 2016

It also needs to be a tubless tire and rim.
Some of those older rims had the dish
rivitied in and will likely leak.

North40 · Apr 26, 2016

Those are good points. I could see a tire coming off the bead in a sharp turn, just enough to start leaking or get dirt in it. With a tube that wouldn't be a problem.

North40 · Apr 26, 2016

Thank guys. Off to buy a tube.

caterpillar guy · Apr 26, 2016

If it is just a crack at the tube stem joint, you can get glue on stems, and just replace the stem.

old · Apr 26, 2016

Just like the tires some are tubeless and some are not the same holds true for rims. Many rims on tractors and not made to be run tubeless and in fact will not stay aired up if they are not a tubeless type rim

BarnyardEngineering · Apr 26, 2016

If a nail gets through the tire, a tube sure as heck isn't going to stop it.

Geo-TH,In · Apr 26, 2016

No. I went to a tire place that works
on farm equipment. They added a blue
green slime, over two gallons. Patched
inside of tire. $48.

Now some will scream how much of a mess
it is to remove tire with slime. My
tire place put it in, so no screaming,
just tell them They put it in tire.

They claim they put it in tires used on
coal mine.

My rim had been welded to.

No tube, find a tire store that farmers
use.

A tube doesn't last if you run over
nails and thorns?

JLP1953 · Apr 26, 2016

(quoted from post at 06:54:54 04/26/16) I have a Series 1 (1959) Allis D17. One of my front tires has been going flat. It has an inner tube in it, but the tire and rim both look pretty nice.

Is there any reason I can't just break the bead, pull the tube out, pop in a valve stem and go tubeless? :?:

Tubes at not necessary in the front tire on your tractor, but if you happen to not have enough weight on the front of tractor it could break the bead on the tire and cause it to go flat .

ericlb · Apr 26, 2016

ive tried that several times, usually on a weekend when i didnt have a new tube on the farm, but i have yet to find a front ag tire/ rim that will stay up when run tubless they go flat anywhere from overnite to several days, fortunatly by that time i have bought a tube or 3 so i have some

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