On a sale who pays for loading

37chief · Mar 27, 2016

I bought a flail mower for parts. The price was right. I am going to pick it up next week. The guy I purchased it from doesn't have a way to load it, but his neighbor does, and will charge 20.00 to load it on my trailer. The money in not a problem with me. Like I said For 200.00 I got a good updated drum to hold my blades better, and more parts, I can use. I think if I was selling something I would feel out place charging to have it loaded. What do you think. How does the auctions work, when you buy something? Is it your problem to load it, or up to the auction co. ? Stan

Eldon (WA) · Mar 27, 2016

(quoted from post at 09:29:28 03/27/16) I bought a flail mower for parts. The price was right. I am going to pick it up next week. The guy I purchased it from doesn't have a way to load it, but his neighbor does, and will charge 20.00 to load it on my trailer. The money in not a problem with me. Like I said For 200.00 I got a good updated drum to hold my blades better, and more parts, I can use. I think if I was selling something I would feel out place charging to have it loaded. What do you think. How does the auctions work, when you buy something? Is it your problem to load it, or up to the auction co. ? Stan

Auction company here supplies a forklift for a day or two for loading. If they can't load it they will let you know before the sale.

Hayfarmer · Mar 27, 2016

most auctions I have been to anounce at the start if loading will be available and when. One auction is at the auctioneers lot and they will load stuff that day(saturday) or the first couple days the next week but you have to get it out of there by a certain time unless you make arrangements with them. Also here they are doing a "buyers premium" at some auctions where they add on a percentage to purchase price. At one auction I heard about the auctioneer loaded stuff but it was yours when you bought it, in other words if they broke something loading it it was your problem.

M-MAN · Mar 27, 2016

Around here you buy it you own it. Once the auctioneer say's sold it's all your's.

Sean Feeney · Mar 27, 2016

If this is not a auction did you ask up front if he can load? When i have sold bigger items i tell them i can load
but if you knew he couldn't $20 is cheap.

jimg.allentown · Mar 27, 2016

But, Stan, the guy that sold it to you isn't the one charging you according to your post. His NEIGHBOR is charging you. I would think that details like this would have been worked out either before or at the time of sale. I see nothing improper or unreasonable here.

Murray2 · Mar 27, 2016

Hi, Information you have given, sounds like you got a "good deal" You should pay for loading. $20.00 is cheap to have the mower loaded that you cannot lift. We are all happy for you that you got a good deal . Cheers, Murray

JD Seller · Mar 27, 2016

Most farm auctions will load you for free for a short time after the sale. After a longer period of time it is not uncommon for there to be a charge for loading. The sale I was just at yesterday has areal short load out time. Up until 4;30 Saturday and 8-10AM Monday and after 10AM $5 per item loaded. All items out before 5 PM Monday or they would be disposed of. This auctioneer rents the sale location. The owners do not want things left for very long.

You deal seems like a private sale. It is not common for the sell to not be able to load the item. It sounds like the fellow does not have anyway to load it but the neighbor does. I see nothing wrong in him charging a fee to load it. Now would I charge someone to load a neighbor's items? Not for just one thing that would be quick. I have charged if it took mutable trips or loaders to complete the job.

Eldon (WA) · Mar 27, 2016

(quoted from post at 10:00:12 03/27/16) If this is not a auction did you ask up front if he can load? When i have sold bigger items i tell them i can load
but if you knew he couldn't $20 is cheap.

For a private sale if the owner can't load I will take my tractor along to load....with mounted equipment it is a good way to make sure it works. I've also run into deals where the seller has a helpful neighbor that will load for free. Once I even took my load to his house and used his tools to remove a hitch. I gave him a 20 when I left.

coshoo · Mar 27, 2016

Bought something at the local consignment auction one time- you have a week to get it out (its a cattle auction also, and they want the stuff out before the next sale). Went in Wednesday afternoon to get my item, and there were only 2 young ladies in the office, no one else to be found. One of them pointed to the JBC loader and said "Can you run that thing? We're just girls."

Zachary Hoyt · Mar 27, 2016

I went to a furniture factory shutdown auction in December and they had a forklift guy who they announced would load on the following Monday and Tuesday for $20 per lift. Seemed pretty high to me but the buyers made orts of everything there so I guess the auction company had to get some money out of it somehow. There was very little publicity for the auction. I didn't need anything loaded since everything I bought was smaller and I could pick it up by hand. I've been at equipment auctions and participated in team loading efforts where a few guys who had bought things would work together to load everyone's stuff. If you have 6 people it's not that hard to pick up a 6 foot bush hog and set it in the back of someone's truck. I didn't know any of them but it would just sort of come together. Sometimes I will see some folks trying to lift something and will ask if they want help and it grows that way. It's in everyone's interest to load and go so it seems to happen pretty easily. Of course in a private sale you wouldn't have that option.
Zach

rockyridgefarm · Mar 27, 2016

I usually volunteer a $20 if the loader is a neighbor that came over to help. Usually they don't take it, but sometimes they do. I don't make the offer if the loader came from the sale and it was understood that they'll help load when bidding.

I bid less if I think it's gonna be a pita to get loaded. It's in the seller's and the auctioneer's best interest to offer free loading.

brutus49DC · Mar 27, 2016

If he loaded it the day of the sale the seller should have someone to do it. We loaded things at Dad's sale back in 99 as a service to the bidders as do most people at farm and consignment sales after that usually you are on your own. If he has to come back next week to do it $20 is cheap, $50 would be more fair.

Dan in Ohio · Mar 27, 2016

When I go to an auction, if it is one I do not know I always ask what the situation is for getting loaded. Only rarely have I found one not be prepared in some way and if they are not I ask them to let the crowd know they are on their own for loading in their opening statements. Usually they come up with a plan.

Dan in Ohio · Mar 27, 2016

Stan,

Reread your post, $20 would be a good tip. $50 would be a fee for a service.

37chief · Mar 27, 2016

Like I said I have no problem what so ever with the 20.00, it's a good deal for me. If my neighbor wanted me to load something for him with my fork lift. I would not charge to do it. I guess just a neighborly thing. Stan

1206SWMO · Mar 27, 2016

Around me the seller or auctioneer almost always provides loading the day of the sale and possibly 1-2 days after...They usually announce it at the start of the sale...After the 1-2 days are up you are usually on your own..Usually you have 1-2 weeks to get it off the place..

At one sale it was announced the neighbor would provide loading and you paid him a small fee..I gave him $10 for 3 minutes work and he seemed plenty happy..

JOCCO · Mar 27, 2016

37 no set rule I guess around here as others said at a sale they usually have a loader. Private sale is 50/50 I always ask if its a big item. Some times you are on your own and into recovery mode.

Dick · Mar 27, 2016

As others have said, you didn't state if you bought it at an auction or a private sale.
I go to auctions all the time and if there is farm equipment the auction company always states before the sale if they will provide loading of the equipment and when. All I've been to have a way to load. They will load the day of the sale and possibly a day or two following the sale. If you can't pick up your item for a week or two, then it's up to you. If, say the farmer doesn't have a way to load your item(s) but a neighbor can, yes, you should pay him for his service and $20. is cheap. Now, I've been to smaller auctions where they will be selling a loader attached to a tractor and the auctioneer will tell everyone before the tractor sells, we'd like to use the tractor during and after the sale to load things and would like for the buyer to let them use it until the day after the sale. I've always thought this was reasonable and not a problem.

Now if you bought it at a private sale, like something you saw on Craigslist or an add in the newspaper or at a private farm sale I would say the same applies. If the seller doesn't have a way to load "your item", it's up to you. Now if he says a neighbor can help you out, again, $20. is cheap.
I know your not trying to be cheap and you're just asking a reasonable question. Well, you got a lot of good answers.

Dick

Rich_WI · Mar 27, 2016

(quoted from post at 15:30:02 03/27/16) Like I said I have no problem what so ever with the 20.00, it's a good deal for me. If my neighbor wanted me to load something for him with my fork lift. I would not charge to do it. I guess just a neighborly thing. Stan

But its not your neighbor so there is no "neighborly thing" owed to you. Think of it from the neighbors point of view; some stranger buys something from your neighbor. The guy buying it is not making the effort to bring something to load with and you are asked to step in. How many times do you think you can load stuff before you eventually catch a tail light on the trailer or "scratch" a fender? If you took a couple 20s, you can afford to hand him a Franklin and the problem drives away.

Being neighborly is fine but sooner or later, somebody who is not your neighbor is going to be pretty unneighborly to you and with nothing in your pocket, you wont be to happy about it. Or maybe you are the kind of person that would be happy about it... but in that case, not everybody is like you.

My opinion, pay the guy... with a smile. Think of the alternative, what if the owner cant load and all the neighbors say no? Welcome to Thatsucksville.

paul · Mar 27, 2016

I can understand the $20 charge.

If you came with a cherry picker and loaded it yourself its all good.

If you need help, it costs you a bit because a third party is involved.

At auction they often have free loading for an hour or so after the auction, then after that it is up to you. They often try to work out another forenoon when someone is there, but not always.

Paul

jim castleman · Mar 27, 2016

When I sell something, I load it for the buyer. If I needed to hire someone, I would pay them.

Dave H (MI) · Mar 27, 2016

I have seen it both ways at auctions, but generally they have someone come over for the day and load for free. If I buy something elsewhere and have to have it loaded, I generally pay...or at least offer to pay...them who help. I say it that way because I had two guys bring loaders from two different farms and load a corn planter on a trailer for me once and neither would take a nickel. Still scratching my head over that one.

Greg1959 · Mar 27, 2016

37Chief- Welp....I'll ask you straight out for some clarification. Seems your original post was somewhat vague.

Did you buy the flail mower from an Auction or from an individual? This would make a 'big' difference in how to answer your question.

37chief · Mar 27, 2016

As I said the guy I bought it from has no way to load it. I just wondered how something is loaded when a auction purchase is made. Stan

Greg1959 · Mar 28, 2016

37Chief- To me, that would be comparing Apples to Oranges.

Auctions work totally different,even between Auctions (as you have read from previous posters).

As for purchasing from an individual....I think those arrangements should have been agreed to or asked about in the deal.

I guess, you bought the item "As Is". Well, that includes where it sits.

Now, if the seller had a loader/lift to help you load the flail mower, that would be good. But, it seems, he didn't have the equipment to accomplish that.

So, he offered his neighbors help to load for $20.

I guess, I just don't understand why you would even ask such a question about this situation...

ss55 · Mar 28, 2016

If the seller promised to load it FOB (Free On Board) he would be the one to pay, otherwise it is the buyer's problem. Many sellers will still help load if they can. $20 for a neutral neighbor's help is extremely reasonable.

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