Cheap diesel

Eldon:

How old & stale was it? - Sure it wasn't the dregs in their tank? LOL

$1.979 down here in Pahrump. / Gas: $1.519 Reg. Unleaded


How ya'll doin' up there, neighbor?

Doc :>)
 
The cheapest fuel I ever found in WA was at story at that little bitty truckstop off the Interstate on the old road. West of Ellensburg.
 
I just had my tank filled 700 gallon and it was 1.27 a gallon with taxes,, off- road fuel,, I would Much rather be paying a bit more and have everyone working again here,, getting close to 7000 people laid off here now, and its going to get worse before it gets better
cnt
 
Filled my pickup in Billings Mt. for 1.39 thurs. Will likely commit to our bulk 'red' fuel this week. This appears to be good for our costs of doing business, but, as others have said, this is hurting the community. Too many people out of work. One family member is already 'laid off' & a couple more are at risk.
 
(quoted from post at 09:30:59 02/21/16) .....,[b:a7978d002b] I would Much rather be paying a bit more and have everyone working again here,, [/b:a7978d002b] getting close to 7000 people laid off here now, and its going to get worse before it gets better
cnt
Gotta disagree. Cheap fuel benefits EVERYONE who drives in this country. It has definitely been a plus for me and my wife, considering we drive hundreds of miles per week to/from work. We have surplus money at the end of each month compared to the old high-price gas days. Granted, our 401k's have taken a hit but that will come back once the engergy sector bottoms out. Plus, we're "buying" in our 401ks when prices are low, so unless you plan to retire very soon, you're getting more bang for your investment buck these days.

As for people losing their jobs and people willing to pay more to keep them employed: That doesn't seem to be the American way. Every time you buy a cheaper tool, appliance or TV made overseas, you're benefitting from the fact that it's made for less money than it would cost to make it here, i.e. someone here in America lost their job in the process. And to sidestep the argument that someone "tries" to buy American when possible but can't find American made stuff and is thus "forced" to buy foreign, that's a "chicken and egg" argument. Manufacturers move operations overseas to stay competitive. Once the first one moves, the dominoes start to fall.

An anecdote to the above: We built some equipment for a company who now builds their product outside of the US but brings it into the states, does some minor assembly, tests it and slaps a "Made in USA" sticker on them. The equipment we sold them sits in the middle of a sizable dark, empty building that used to be their assembly plant. A number of overpaid assembly workers lost their jobs but the company stayed in business employing engineers, marketing, sales, accountants, etc. who otherwise would have lost THEIR jobs if the company went under due to overseas competition. Far more jobs were saved in this instance than jobs lost.

No, can't say I'm crying for an oil rig worker in the upper Midwest who may have lost his job while I'm pumping gas here in Michigan at $ 1.30 per gallon this AM.
 
Cheap oil helps this country in several ways:

1) The average consumers energy cost are a much higher percentage of income than more affluent people. So lower energy cost helps the poor fastest.

2) Cheaper energy cost are a "boost" to the non energy production economy. It is cheaper to make and transport goods with cheaper fuel.

3) A BIG deal is cheaper oil prices help defund the Mideast nut jobs too. I think that the Saudis are allowing the oil price to plummet to put pressure on Iran and ISISS.

4) The cheaper oil price has helped raise the value of our dollar. While it makes exports higher priced I still think a higher value dollar is better long term for the country than a cheap dollar.

So I say I hope we all have cheap fuel for a long time. I really think that the election will end the cheap fuel. There are many areas of the economy that are just limping along. I think many do not want a crash on this Presidents watch. So once he is out of office I think there will be a recession that is actually a continuation of the 2008 one. Many parts of the economy never have truly recovered from the 2008 recession. The government reporting has just mask this by gaming the numbers. This not new either both parties have done this for years.
 
Eldon, was that in a dark alley? LOL I'm by John and pay the same as him. Called about off road. It is $1.43 delivered min 1000 gallons. Cheaper for me to buy at station. Can run it in all of the equipment.
 
(quoted from post at 10:24:57 02/21/16) Eldon, was that in a dark alley? LOL I'm by John and pay the same as him. Called about off road. It is $1.43 delivered min 1000 gallons. Cheaper for me to buy at station. Can run it in all of the equipment.

To be honest it was with a 30 cent Safeway discount....(but I haven't shopped at Safeway in ages). I can get road diesel up here for $1.64, not sure what dyed is going for. I did pick up a nice 250 gallon square tank yesterday, so I will be heading to the reservation to fill with dyed fuel. It should be around 1.30 there.
 
$1.699 for on road diesel here in southside VA, a few miles down the road, unleaded regular is $1.399. 100 gallons of off road diesel the first of the month was $1.449 delivered.
 
Kent Petersen:

Sorry, but you must have me confused with someone else, because I don't have the foggiest idea of what you're talking about.

Doc
 
(quoted from post at 17:36:13 02/21/16) Cheap oil helps this country in several ways:

1) The average consumers energy cost are a much higher percentage of income than more affluent people. So lower energy cost helps the poor fastest.

2) Cheaper energy cost are a "boost" to the non energy production economy. It is cheaper to make and transport goods with cheaper fuel.

3) A BIG deal is cheaper oil prices help defund the Mideast nut jobs too. I think that the Saudis are allowing the oil price to plummet to put pressure on Iran and ISISS.

4) The cheaper oil price has helped raise the value of our dollar. While it makes exports higher priced I still think a higher value dollar is better long term for the country than a cheap dollar.

So I say I hope we all have cheap fuel for a long time. I really think that the election will end the cheap fuel. There are many areas of the economy that are just limping along. I think many do not want a crash on this Presidents watch. So once he is out of office I think there will be a recession that is actually a continuation of the 2008 one. Many parts of the economy never have truly recovered from the 2008 recession. The government reporting has just mask this by gaming the numbers. This not new either both parties have done this for years.

In eastern Ohio the oil boom, that has now subsided, was a big boost to that part of the state. Previously they were a big coal mining area but we know what the EPA under current and past leadership has done to that business. A friend who lives over there said what they are mining is going to China, with their economy tanking I wonder if even that has continued to the same extent.

As a commuter putting almost 100 miles a day on the vehicle I do welcome the lower gasoline prices. It was getting to the point of asking the boss if I could work just 4 days a week and cut out at least one day of driving. My team buddy is an hour and half away and he's on the four tens a week schedule, and can work from home when the weather is bad or if he has to get on line on a Friday for a meeting or a project. I do notice the extra cash in pocket at the end of the week now, can take mom out for a dinner on the weekend when we have time.

I agree that there are those propping up the economy for the current leadership, fudged numbers and all. I'm 60 and have never seen such a poor recovery in my years. All the happy talk by the abundant media makes me gag when I thing about folk's situation in rural areas and how our leaders have done nothing to support the creation of job. And I don't mean throwing money at the situation, just get out of the way with all the rules and regulations that stifle the economy. I've said all along that nothing will really get better until the First One is gone, and not replaced with another First One.
 

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