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Renewable Energy in Indiana

Geo-TH,In

Geo-TH,In

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I found this old article interesting. Especially the wind farm in N Indiana, Solar farm at Indy
airport, and by 2025 Indiana wants 10% clean energy. Fair Oaks dairy is also getting into raising
pigs, I think it called Royal Oaks, not 100% sure. It's in the same area of N West Indiana.

If you have a newer article please post it.

Not in the article is my local landfill produces enough natural gas to power a brick factory.
Renewable Energy in Indiana
 
The land around the airport would be a great place for solar panels! No trees, and they don't seem to use it for anything, not even hay. Recently there was a concern about good ag land being used for solar farms, I really doubt if that happens very much, and with prices the way they are we are overproducing anyhow.
 
There is a small hydro generation plant on the Ohio River at Markland lock & dam @ near Vevay, IN built into the dam. Not sure if it is being used or not.
 

Galesburg, Ill. has been using methane gas from their waste treatment plant for MANY years - the gas is piped to stationary engines that pump the effluent from the sewer back up to the treatment tanks at ground level which are fitted with anaerobic covers and collect the methane for the engines and one of those engines turns a generator that powers the complex - I saw this in the '70s when the govt. was giving out grants for 'alternative energy' research and so on (like windmills built by hippies); Galesburg built there own, years before! :shock: Also, there was an engineer in India that went to work for the govt. over there. He was tasked with developing a system to provide cooking fuel for EVERY dwelling in the entire country AND it had to be readily available and of inexhaustible supply, no matter where the dwelling was located (including mud-huts in the jungle)! He came up with a septic system that was self-pressurizing and depended only on the inhabitants evacuating their bowels as usual. The gas thus generated (methane) was piped to the family cook stove and the system required little or no maintenance. He did write a book (illustrated) that gave the particulars - I don't recall the name of the book but his name was Ram Bux SINGH( - Do a Google search for [i:92a772d059]ram bux singh methane[/i:92a772d059] for more information. 8)
 
I believe it is a federal mandate for a certain percent of energy to be produced by reneweable resources. The NC General Asembly has been looking for ways to get around that mandate. I am a Duke customer. Power bill has really jumped the last 7 years.
 
A lot discussed about renewable energy the last month here in Iowa. It is all subsidized I believe or it wouldn't be being built. A lot of uproar about the candidate that wanted to eliminate the ethanol subsidy. Our governor even got into the peeing match, telling people not to vote for the nnalert that won!
 
Do you know where the 92MW of hydro generation are located?
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The Elkhart facility is 3.44mW and Twin Branch is 8.24mW. There are at least four other hydros on the St. Joseph river, but I think they are all in MI.

My employer lists 17 total hydro units- one for sure is pumped storage- totaling almost 900 mW, plus 310Mw of wind and three solar facilities in progress. I know one of the solar farms is scheduled for IN.

All added up totals less than one big coal unit- 22 sites with maintenance and operation costs vs one big, smoky spot. Kinda a tough call.
 
Many states are getting a warm and fuzzy feeling knowing that a very small % of their electricity
is going to be renewable. 10% by 2025 in Indiana. I read someplace that wind along is almost 9.7%
at current time.

We also have NG power plants in Indiana. One is just on the other side of the river. I can see it
from place in country.

Like it or not, times are slowly changing. Some think for the better, some hate the idea.
 

Doing something "green" no matter how little difference it makes and how much it costs. It's a sure way to obtain abundant votes from scared middle aged women who are afraid for their grandchildren's future .
 
buickanddeere,
Look at the green thing another way. Solar and wind won't last, they will need repaired or
replaced. It's a job creation, economic stimulus. Putting people to work, building, installing,
repairing and maintaining.

The green line is a high voltage transmission like form Kansas wind farm to Indiana. The
politicians are foaming at the mouth. Close to Indiana the high voltage DC is turned back into AC.
Politicians are counting on new jobs and mega bucks in new taxes.

And yes, it gives the greenies a warm and fuzzy feeling they are saving the planet.
 

Ontario had a job loss instead of gaining 20,000 new jogs when green power was introduced.
Keep track of the promised numbers now and get back to us in five years with the actual numbers.
Do you really think that " green power" is saving the world ?
 

Green energy will last as long as the subsidizes last, then green power collapses.
Subsidizes last as long as there is money to take money from one group by over charging and give the extra to another group as a bonus.
 
Nothing works better than the free market. If solar/wind/biogas, etc. is so good it should stand up on its own in competition with other sources. Otherwise it is a terrible waste of resources that could go to better uses.

Jobs? Jobs on useless and subsidized projects are like government jobs, they are a net loss to the economy.
 
(quoted from post at 14:06:20 02/05/16) Nothing works better than the free market. If solar/wind/biogas, etc. is so good it should stand up on its own in competition with other sources. Otherwise it is a terrible waste of resources that could go to better uses.

Jobs? Jobs on useless and subsidized projects are like government jobs, they are a net loss to the economy.
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What about the subsidies the tax payers pay out to the oil company's. Do you think they'd go broke if the cash cow quit producing? Green energy is doable, but it has to be done on an individual bases. Like solar panels and wind turbines powering individual homes. I know a few people tha are energy independent. One doesn't even have a power line leading to his home. Every bit of energy is produce on site. It can be done if people pull their heads out of the sand and give it a try.
 
I would say paying someone not to work is also a net loss to the economy, welfare, unemployment,
disability.
 
(quoted from post at 09:57:56 02/05/16)
(quoted from post at 14:06:20 02/05/16) Nothing works better than the free market. If solar/wind/biogas, etc. is so good it should stand up on its own in competition with other sources. Otherwise it is a terrible waste of resources that could go to better uses.

Jobs? Jobs on useless and subsidized projects are like government jobs, they are a net loss to the economy.
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What about the subsidies the tax payers pay out to the oil company's. Do you think they'd go broke if the cash cow quit producing? Green energy is doable, but it has to be done on an individual bases. Like solar panels and wind turbines powering individual homes. I know a few people tha are energy independent. One doesn't even have a power line leading to his home. Every bit of energy is produce on site. It can be done if people pull their heads out of the sand and give it a try.
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I don't know where the idea comes form that the petroleum industry is revenue negative to the government rather than revenue positive.
Taxes, fees and royalties paid to the Governent regarding the petroleum industry are more than what ever grants or concessions are given.
You can give all the pep talks you want, share all the warm feelings and tell wonderful stories of peace, love harmony, tweeting birds, flowers and green grass. While human opinion and laws maybe swayed by peer pressure etc . The laws of physics don't care what we think and they don't change.
What is practical is practical . What is not practical is either a parasite absorbing subsidizes . Or the not practical fades away and fails.
Any location serviced by a diversified distribution grid is cheaper than solar or wind .
 
(quoted from post at 18:46:33 02/05/16) I would say paying someone not to work is also a net loss to the economy, welfare, unemployment,
disability.
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I collect disability. I suppose that make me a leech?
 
(quoted from post at 19:02:34 02/05/16)
(quoted from post at 09:57:56 02/05/16)
(quoted from post at 14:06:20 02/05/16) Nothing works better than the free market. If solar/wind/biogas, etc. is so good it should stand up on its own in competition with other sources. Otherwise it is a terrible waste of resources that could go to better uses.

Jobs? Jobs on useless and subsidized projects are like government jobs, they are a net loss to the economy.
Click to expand...

What about the subsidies the tax payers pay out to the oil company's. Do you think they'd go broke if the cash cow quit producing? Green energy is doable, but it has to be done on an individual bases. Like solar panels and wind turbines powering individual homes. I know a few people tha are energy independent. One doesn't even have a power line leading to his home. Every bit of energy is produce on site. It can be done if people pull their heads out of the sand and give it a try.
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I don't know where the idea comes form that the petroleum industry is revenue negative to the government rather than revenue positive.
Taxes, fees and royalties paid to the Governent regarding the petroleum industry are more than what ever grants or concessions are given.
You can give all the pep talks you want, share all the warm feelings and tell wonderful stories of peace, love harmony, tweeting birds, flowers and green grass. While human opinion and laws maybe swayed by peer pressure etc . The laws of physics don't care what we think and they don't change.
What is practical is practical . What is not practical is either a parasite absorbing subsidizes . Or the not practical fades away and fails.
Any location serviced by a diversified distribution grid is cheaper than solar or wind .
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Where the heck did you hear that garbage, Faux news?
 
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