Wood cutting woes

Brendon Warren · Jan 28, 2016

Its been one of those days. I took the 65 to cut some wood today and dropped the front end through the ice in a ditch. I snapped the front pivot pin off. Now I'm planning the rescue mission. I think if I can get the front lifted up and set on the back of a running gear I should be able to steer it home. I'm thinking that or get on of the Amish neighbors with a stone boat. I'm open to ideas.

Don Hopf · Jan 28, 2016

I tried to go thru some hard snow on the driveway at the farm with a 2012 GMC 1500 4WD and broke thru the hard snow. Tractors wouldn't start so its the old coal shovel. I did get it out but did remove the air deflector on the bottom of the front bumper. No broken parts but I need to figure out how to work the plastic rivets.

Donald Lehman · Jan 28, 2016

I would think a running gear or stone boat would be your best bets. Some fun, huh?

f2355j · Jan 28, 2016

I wish I was there with my Bobcat T190 wide track skid steer I would just pick up the front and pull it to your shop.

MARK ROBKE · Jan 28, 2016

I think those 'plastic rivets' are the kind where the center has to be pulled out of the outer,wider piece to remove from the parts they attach.When you install them,you push the outer piece thru and then push the inner rivet to lock.Mark

Brendon Warren · Jan 28, 2016

The bobcat would be the cats pajamas. I ran one of them when they first came out. My boss at the time put the first ten hours on it, I put the next 200 on it.

fixerupper · Jan 28, 2016

Could you fix it right there or is it too involved for that?

Bret4207 · Jan 28, 2016

Got a junk car or truck hood? Couple of hi-lift jacks, get the front on the hood and slide it to the barn.

DENNIS MIN · Jan 28, 2016

Brendon,

Chain a stone boat underneath pointed toward the rear, once clear, remove the steering stuff, chain the front on each side, and pull that wrenching rascal home, rearward first.

When you get to a clearing, spin it around, pull from the front, hope I'm, clear in description.

D.

Billy NY · Jan 28, 2016

Should work if you can get the front end to skid. I did this from a down hill slope, spindle broke on the right side. This one has a loader on it, so I just raised up the front end with the bucket flat. With the 6' rotary mower on the back, even though the soil was moist, fresh cut grasses etc., I was able to back up the slope to the top of the hill and park it on a flat spot. I was not sure if I would get traction or not backing up hill.

Janicholson · Jan 28, 2016

Jack it up and put a 4X8 sheet of plywood under it with a cleat glued and naied to the cleat to allow it to be pushed forward. use a comalong to pull up on the front of the plywood to make a ski. Drive it home using the wheel brakes to steer, Jim

JimB2 · Jan 28, 2016

Hi, I can tell you how to do it as I had the same thing happen with a B414 where the front wheels went through the ice while crossing a creek. Did not break anything but put a flat spot on both from rims. BUT I would be crucified on this site.

The old car/truck hood sounds a good choice. If you have a friend with a much heavier tractor with a lower drawbar you can bolt the MF 3pt drawbar to the heavy tractor, raise the 3pt on the MF until the front end will come off the ground and drive it backwards to the shop.

JimB

merlynr · Jan 28, 2016

(quoted from post at 18:29:24 01/28/16) Should work if you can get the front end to skid. I did this from a down hill slope, spindle broke on the right side. This one has a loader on it, so I just raised up the front end with the bucket flat. With the 6' rotary mower on the back, even though the soil was moist, fresh cut grasses etc., I was able to back up the slope to the top of the hill and park it on a flat spot. I was not sure if I would get traction or not backing up hill.

My buddy did that when his ac185 broke a spindle going thru a shallow ditch. He took a chain and hooked it to the front loader arm and around the axle and raised the loader and the bad wheel came off the ground and he drove it back to his shop kinda like a three legged dog.

Ron-MO · Jan 28, 2016

mark is correct. This is one reason those air dams come off within a week after I buy one as they usually end up broken anyhow. I think they look better without them anyhow as they sit way too low for my liking.

Brendon Warren · Jan 28, 2016

Fixerupper, I was thinking of fixing it on the spot. If it wasn't
in a *?**hole I would. If I can at least get it out of the ditch
I'll see what I can do. I just hope it doesn't freeze in. Were
supposed to be on the warm side after tonight.

fixerupper · Jan 28, 2016

(reply to post at 19:56:17 01/28/16) [/

Working on it out in the cold is not fun and you have to drag all of your tools out there plus make five trips for more tools. You have cold fingers and toes and you hands are clumsy. Most of us northerners have been there at some time. However, if you happen to get lucky and be able to drive the broken one out and drive the new one in you might be better off fixing it right there.

Looking at another way, once you get it away from the hole you are half way home. Just thinking out loud which is dangerous.

Bob · Jan 28, 2016

I've done a lot of pointless/stupid/ridiculous things in my life, so I probably shouldn't comment, but with fuel oil and propane prices so low, HOW can you afford to muck around and break stuff trying to rescue firewood?

Brendon Warren · Jan 29, 2016

Well Bob I normally don't break stuff and the trees are going to die and fall down and make a mess. Maybe I should sit on my butt in the house? Maybe the county would give me HEAP?

Bill in IL · Jan 29, 2016

While I do agree with your outlook on fuel prices, woodcutting is good exercise, cleans up the wood lot, and reason for the boy and I to get outside and build character. I sometime question why I do it myself, but if your one to question why burn wood then wood burning is obviously not for you and you are welcome to sit at the tv turn up the thermostat and enjoy.

L.Fure · Jan 29, 2016

Do you have another tractor with a three point hitch? If you do, could you chain the front on the broken tractor to the three point, raise it up, and tow it back to the shop?

Bret4207 · Jan 29, 2016

(quoted from post at 01:41:19 01/29/16) I've done a lot of pointless/stupid/ridiculous things in my life, so I probably shouldn't comment, but with fuel oil and propane prices so low, HOW can you afford to muck around and break stuff trying to rescue firewood?

I don't care how cheap oil or propane is, it's still going to cost more than wood off you own farm unless the oil/propane is free. We've still got 2-3 months of winter to look forward to up here.

massey333 · Jan 29, 2016

Brendon,why are you and most wood burners so HOSTILE when someone questions or says something negative about burning wood?90% 0r better of people I know of burning wood are BUYING it from dealers all ready cut & split.8 to 10 TON loads at a time.Most farmers in the past that burnt wood in shops are now using LP,so they will a half way warm shop to start in and not have to wait hour or two to get warm plus a lot of people have found they can't bank a fire long enough while gone.You get tired lighting a fire once or twice a day after awhile.But if it floats your boat and you have the TIME,then go for it because a lot of people don't.

Brendon Warren · Jan 29, 2016

Massey 333, I may come of as hostile its probably because I don't like being called stupid or ridiculous. If I got to clean it out of the fence rows to keep it out of the hayfields why wouldn't I burn it? I realize fuel is down right now but that hasn't been the case for quite a few years. I also have an oil fired boiler. I like to go to the woods and get some exercise in the winter, that floats my boat just fine.

Fullers Farmalls · Jan 29, 2016

I would try and place as much weight as you can on draw bar of the tractor. If you get enough back there it will raise the front end. I have a 9N and I know its light in the front. Do you have another tractor? If you can get the front to lift you could lower it onto another tractors drawbar or even front bucket and drag it back home to make repairs.

Bret4207 · Jan 30, 2016

(quoted from post at 15:52:32 01/29/16) Brendon,why are you and most wood burners so HOSTILE when someone questions or says something negative about burning wood?90% 0r better of people I know of burning wood are BUYING it from dealers all ready cut & split.8 to 10 TON loads at a time.Most farmers in the past that burnt wood in shops are now using LP,so they will a half way warm shop to start in and not have to wait hour or two to get warm plus a lot of people have found they can't bank a fire long enough while gone.You get tired lighting a fire once or twice a day after awhile.But if it floats your boat and you have the TIME,then go for it because a lot of people don't.

As Brendan says, because the implication is that we're so freakin' stupid we can't see that it would be easier to buy our fuel. realize not everyone lives where winter can last 6 months or where natural gas is unavailable or where fuel oil, propane and electricity are ridiculously expensive. I also know many, many people are not living in an area with a perpetual economic depression, where things aren't coming up roses and taxes are high. And, most aren't farming. So, yeah, when I get a townie from someplace a lot warmer that can get natural gas heating for pennies a day make a comment that implies anyone that goes to the trouble of cutting and burning his own wood, off his own farm, is wasting his time it tends to rub the wrong way. This isn't the first time either.

Determined · Jan 30, 2016

(quoted from post at 13:52:32 01/29/16) Brendon,why are you and most wood burners so HOSTILE when someone questions or says something negative about burning wood?90% 0r better of people I know of burning wood are BUYING it from dealers all ready cut & split.8 to 10 TON loads at a time.Most farmers in the past that burnt wood in shops are now using LP,so they will a half way warm shop to start in and not have to wait hour or two to get warm plus a lot of people have found they can't bank a fire long enough while gone.You get tired lighting a fire once or twice a day after awhile.But if it floats your boat and you have the TIME,then go for it because a lot of people don't.

All depends why you have wood heat I guess.

3:00 A.M.
Carry a half frozen newborn calf into the shop, lay it down on a blanket and start toweling it dry in front of the heat of a roaring fire in the woodstove, watching as it absorbs the heat and comes to life standing for the first time.
Hard to get the same results from an electric or gas heating appliance suitable for a workshop.
Have done this many times during storms and power outages and would not be without it.

JML755 · Jan 30, 2016

(quoted from post at 14:52:32 01/29/16) Brendon,why are you and most wood burners so HOSTILE when someone questions or says something negative about burning wood?90% 0r better of people I know of burning wood are BUYING it from dealers all ready cut & split.8 to 10 TON loads at a time.Most farmers in the past that burnt wood in shops are now using LP,so they will a half way warm shop to start in and not have to wait hour or two to get warm plus a lot of people have found they can't bank a fire long enough while gone.You get tired lighting a fire once or twice a day after awhile.But if it floats your boat and you have the TIME,then go for it because a lot of people don't.

So Brandon was supposed to just sit there and let Bob question the way he lives his life? I know people who bake bread. Why risk burning your house down when you can just go to the store and buy a loaf? A lot of people on here change their own oil. Why risk having a car fall on you when you can just go to a quick change place? Brandon was in no way disparaging anyone who DOESN'T burn wood. In fact, it never came up in his OP. He was merely polling the people on this forum for ideas on how they may have handled a similar situation and got some darn good responses. There was no value added in Bob's post.

willysz · Jan 31, 2016

I find it real interesting how many people are just looking for a reason to criticize some one else. Every post in a chat room or YouTube video makes you a target for any number of mean spirited, mostly do nothing, people out there. I'm not talking about constructive criticism, but the kind that just knocks whatever someone tries. I wonder if these people think this makes them feel smarter. We all try and learn from our mistakes, mostly doing the best we can. Even an imperfect attempt can teach all of us something or give us an idea that will help us. Brenden will get this out continue to cut wood and take care of his family the best he can. A good suggestion can be helpful but simple criticism accomplishes nothing.

BarryfromIA · Jan 31, 2016

The broken front is not a new problem on tractors especially wide fronts, just another opportunity to use your problem solving skills that people who live in the country have.

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