MH44 leaking studs follow up

David G

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The last time I put it together I used Indian Head sealer, it leaked.

I believe the problem is stud diameter. I have tried the studs that were in the engine when I got it, and the ARP studs, both leaked. I pulled it back apart today and measured everything up. The "original" studs measured .560", the ARP measured .560", but the ones I pulled out of my spare engine today measured .563" and fit the threads real tight. I came on this hunch today after looking up other issues with studs leaking. There are 3 classes of studs, 1 which is loose for easy assembly, 2 which is made for strength, and 3 which are made for zero clearance. It looks like the studs in my spare engine are class 3, the ARP are class 2 and the original ones are either class 2 or just cleaned up too much.

The studs that leaked would wiggle until they bottomed, a lot like a bolt that is threaded into a hole. The ones out of my spare engine are tight all the way after the first 2 - 3 turns. I have everything cleaned up, including the closer tolerance studs and will reassemble once I get a head gasket. I will put some 567 sealer on them, per JD Seller and use them. The moral of the story is that be careful that you do not clean up threads too much that must seal and make sure that replacement studs measure the same thread OD, because there are differences.
 
All studs that screw into the water jacket where water is present are what I call a fat thread. One end is a std. thread or fine thread the other end the threads are fat thread so they will seal water.
 
My studs were not fat enough, I think this may also be why ARP has so much trouble with their studs sealing, the Internet is full of people with issues on them. The coarse threads are what go into the block.
 
My choice for a sealer would be Loctite 545. You need to be able to clean both sides well, the Loctite primer is preferred. Life could be worse, I have a Pony where the head is held on by 3/8 bolts. Don't even have a shoulder to help seal on those.
 

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