(quoted from post at 10:25:47 01/13/16) Actually, it was the other way around, Kmart bought Sears.

Right. Sears will follow at some point. Seems really sad to me that institutions like Sears, Motgomery Wards, Grants, Western Auto, etc are going or gone.
 
When you can order stuff through Amazon and it arrives the next day, or in some cases the same day, why go to the bother of driving to a Mall? At one time, Sears owned that type of business through their great big catalog(s). Only difference was it took a week instead of a day or two. Why didn't they see the business going that way? Amazon claims to be the largest retailer in the world surpassing Wal*Mart.
 
I guess I'd have to admit that I didn't know that K-Mart was still in business. I haven't seen one in many years. When I was kid, my older sister worked for S.S. Kresge. Was that a predecessor to K-Mart?

Tom in TN
 
As the saying goes "Get on the band-wagon." If the trend is toward on-line shopping , the road to survival is to establish more competition for Amazon. Personally, I doubt if box stores and shopping mall will totally disappear for the simple fact that women LOVE to shop.
 
K-Marts are the box stores of my area. Wall Marts hit the state eventually but they are still too far from me. One K-Mart closed , no two K-marts closed recently. One is still local.
 
I believe it was Kresge,yes. They started here in Michigan I think. A good friend of my Dad was a carpenter and I remember him telling when I was a little kid,that he had done some work on Kresge's house at their farm. From what I remember of the conversation,it was quite a farm too at that time.

All that said,I have no idea what keeps the K Mart here open. You could land a 747 in their parking lot any time of the day or night. It's rare that there's ever more than two checkouts open,if there are even two.
 
(quoted from post at 14:25:47 01/13/16) Actually, it was the other way around, Kmart bought Sears.

Yes--and Kmart was in the process of filing bankruptcy!!!!
I have been in Kmart one time since they bought Sears and have not been in Sears.

Only problem I have with Amazon is their policy of selling for other companies.
I only buy Prime items and have found description inaccurate or misleading.
Some items are out of warranty when received and can't be returned!
Must be careful!
 
About 12-15 years ago K-marts business model was to be the convenience store of the box store world. They had already earned a reputation for cheap junk and teens were calling it "came-apart". So when they were really loosing a lot of sales to Wal Mart they went with saturation. A K-mart on every corner thinking that the convenience of getting to a K-mart would make people shop there. That business model did nothing for sales but did hit the bottom line hard.

On line sales have hurt brick and mortar stores hard. But I have to agree. Malls are not going to go away. Wal Mart has on-line sales now too.

Rick
 
Locally KMart has a better price on many Craftsman tools than the Sears store does.

As to Walmart, we buy quite a few items from them online and use the 'ship to store' option because it is free. Items that they have in the store can be picked up in about an hour but you do not have to hunt them down in the store - you just go to the online desk and pick them up. Much simpler for some things.
 
Anchor stores such as K-Mart, along with JC Penney, Sears, Macy's, etc. have been closing many of their stores and along with them, go the malls they're located in. There are about 1200 enclosed malls in the US and about one-third of them are dead or dying. The US has twice as much square footage in shopping centers per capita than the rest of the world and six times as much as European countries. We simply overbuilt malls in the 20th century. Many of them will be razed or turned into something else. On-line shopping will accelerate that process.
 
Local Target store is closing the end of the month.

Kmart closed when Walmart came years ago.

Rumor is the Menards is on thin ice, it opened 3 years ago or so.

We are pretty close to a shopping hub, only half hour away.

All the box stores are in trouble.

Out in the rural areas, they don't quite cater to our needs.

Go figure, we still have a Sears tool & appliance, and a Radio Shack in town!

Paul
 
Our local K-Mart died several years ago despite being in a fairly new building, and the site became a Gander Mountain. So it's a lose-win situation.
 
Walmart's site to store service? Don't use it if you need the item in a timely manner or if you expect good service. They took 2 1/2 weeks to ship an item we had ordered as a shower gift. The shower came and went before the item arrived even though we were assured by a customer service rep that it would arrive on time. And when it finally did arrive, they refused to let me pick it up for my wife! I guess that is the price you pay for "free shipping." Site to Store? Never again.
 
Can't compete with walmart! Seems like a lot of the old standbys go under. Who would have thought an old established company like Montgomery Wards would fail.
 
Possibly. The construction company that this guy worked for was right here in Sheridan,near 57 and 66. The way I remember the conversation,it was a fair distance away where they were working. This would have been 50 years ago probably.
 
I have not been in Walmart since 09. been longer since I've been in Kmart or target. The sears store closed in the 90's. been five years since I've been in a big box store. I see no reason to drive 70 miles to a big store. I can drive 14 miles to my mom and pops and get what I need. AND they call me by my name when I walk in the door.
 
There are not many around me (several hours each way) They have nothing special these days, might have been ok in the 70's Nothing I would miss. Guess when I need a store like them wally world will surfice.
 
pretty much anything I have ordered off of amazon has been cheap junk so no more of that. If I do order online ebay is hard to beat on items being described accurately , quality and ebay standing behind it. to me amazon is like an online dollar store ,all second rate crap.
 
And I am sure they know exactly what you are looking for, unlike the big box employee that is completely dumb founded when you ask for a light bulb.
 
My father came to Ellis Island on a boat from Poland. He spent time in a concentration camp in Germany during WWII. After the war, things weren't much better when Poland became communist, Eastern block. My father came to America, married my mother, went through his civics classes, took a test, got his citizenship. Back in Poland though, he still had a sister whom had two boys, cousins that I never met. My father used to go to Kmart when I was a kid, buy clothes and shoes for his sister and her sons, then take them outside and dirty them up, sometimes even pig manure, and he'd scuff the shoes up in the dirt, then send them all to his sister, Anna. The reason that he'd dirty and scuff things up was because it was less likely that they'd be confiscated by the communist government and sold on the black market for big $$$. The reason that he shopped at Kmart was because the stuff was better than his sister and her sons had to begin with, and because if and when they got confiscated, which sometimes happened, not as big of a loss, leaving more $$$ to keep trying. He died when I was ten, but not before instilling pride and other good, sound traits into my brother and sisters, bless his heart, and may he always rest in peace.

My father's father and both brothers were executed for who they were by the Nazis shortly after they rolled through Poland in one day, taking it over. My father spent time in a concentration camp. When I look back to what people went through back then, and how people now complain that they were cheated because they don't have a 52" big screen TV and the latest iPhone...Hmm. Kmart was very good to an aunt and two cousins that I've still never met.

Mark
 
(quoted from post at 20:48:20 01/13/16) Kmart was very good to an aunt and two cousins that I've still never met.

Mark


Be that as it may, when the quality of their clothing got to the point that it fell apart in the washing machine the first time it was washed and they failed to get better quality clothing in they started loosing a lot of customers. Basically the were trying to under sell Wal Mart and the only way to do that was with sub standard products. Don't get me wrong. Years ago, like in the late 70's K Mart was a good place to shop. But when Wal Mart started cutting into their customer base they chose the wrong way to try to compete. When they closed the stores in this area about the only people who shopped in them were people who had no money to spend in the first place.

Rick
 
Mark, I may be wrong about ww2. History. I met a man who was in the Polish air force. He told me Russia invaded Poland. He was given a choice to join Russian military or be sent to concentration camp. Is it possible Poland also got invaded by Germany at the same time?
 
(quoted from post at 09:10:37 01/14/16) Mark, I may be wrong about ww2. History. I met a man who was in the Polish air force. He told me Russia invaded Poland. He was given a choice to join Russian military or be sent to concentration camp. Is it possible Poland also got invaded by Germany at the same time?

Yeah, Germany rolled through Poland headed east to Moscow and then a few years later the USSR rolled through Poland heading towards Berlin. The Russians killed as many or more than the Germans. Poland got screwed over twice.
 
(quoted from post at 10:54:42 01/13/16) When you can order stuff through Amazon and it arrives the next day, or in some cases the same day, why go to the bother of driving to a Mall? At one time, Sears owned that type of business through their great big catalog(s). Only difference was it took a week instead of a day or two. Why didn't they see the business going that way? Amazon claims to be the largest retailer in the world surpassing Wal*Mart.

I wish Sears would rethink their model and become an online retailer like Amazon. Wouldn't it be great to have the Sears Big Book again and the option of 2 day "Prime" shipping? You could always count on Sears quality. To get that back again would be great.
 
OK guys what happened is that when Germany invaded Poland they were allies with Russia. Russia invaded for their half of Poland on the 17th of Sept, 1939. Then they "liberated" Poland later in the war when driving the Germans back. They captured Warsaw on 17 Jan 45. The Kaitlin Forrest Massacre of the Polish officer and cadet corps was committed by the Russians after Poland fell in Oct of 1939.

Contrary to popular belief they Nazi's didn't just gas Jewish people. They had a long list of "undesirables" that included Gypsies and Slavs too.

Fun fact: Between Stalin's purges right before Germany attacked and losses to all causes during the war conservative estimates put Soviet losses at least 50,000,000. Yet when Japan surrendered in Sep 45 the Soviet military was the #2 in the world only because we had the atomic bomb.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 23:01:29 01/14/16) In the 40s and 50s Kresge's was a "Five & Dime" store in my Illinois town.

Don't know if this actually happened-----My mother and her sisters told us many times about what their dad (my grandpa) did years ago.
They said Sears advertised that they could sell you anything at request and if not, they would pay you $100.00!
Grandpa ordered 100# of sage grass seed! He got the $100.00 (a lot of money back in the day)!
I dought this happened --just thought some would think this funny?
 
(quoted from post at 13:07:23 01/14/16) OK guys what happened is that when Germany invaded Poland they were allies with Russia. Russia invaded for their half of Poland on the 17th of Sept, 1939. Then they "liberated" Poland later in the war when driving the Germans back. They captured Warsaw on 17 Jan 45. The Kaitlin Forrest Massacre of the Polish officer and cadet corps was committed by the Russians after Poland fell in Oct of 1939.

Contrary to popular belief they Nazi's didn't just gas Jewish people. They had a long list of "undesirables" that included Gypsies and Slavs too.

Fun fact: Between Stalin's purges right before Germany attacked and losses to all causes during the war conservative estimates put Soviet losses at least 50,000,000. Yet when Japan surrendered in Sep 45 the Soviet military was the #2 in the world only because we had the atomic bomb.

Rick

Yeah, people don't seem to have a good grasp of history. Not to make light of Nazi atrocities at all, but between Lenin, Stalin and the following USSR leaders, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. 20th century communism has killed many, many times the numbers of people Nazi fas cism did. And yet today we have lots of people in the US who really believe that communism is the best system but that it just hasn't had the "right" people in charge. Communism means someone is going to be in charge and that someone ALWAYS has to get "From each according to his abilities..." at the point of a gun so that they can give "...to each according to his needs." Communism, and it's little brother socialism, remove the incentive to improve ones condition by removing the possibility of improving ones condition beyond a certain point, if not at all.
 

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