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Ok I have a 1967 ford 3000, 2 wheel drive with after market power steering. The problem I am having is that the steering arm where it attaches to the spindle. Here the arm slides over the spindle and has a half moon key and on the other side a bolt goes through to clamp it on to the spindle. First i kept sheering the keyways due to slot being woolered out. So I got new spindles and steering arm. But drove it twice and already crushing key do to movement of arm. Which once crushed cuases wheel to have slop. I have checked bolt tourque spec's but they say 45-50lbs. its not enough to squeeze that steering arm tight to keep spindle from movement and crushing or sheering key. Thoughts???
 
The spindles go into a axle housing that should have bushing in them and if there bad or not kept greased will cause the spindles to turn hard and cause that type of problem
 
I remember those bolts being a lot tighter than45-50 foot lbs. What I have done of these type of spindles is to clean everything up real good I mean real clean. No grease at all. Then using a NEW key I put Loctite cylindrical retaining compound on the spindle/arm. Then tighten the bolt to what you think is tight. Leave it 24 hours to cure. That usually is the end of any issue with the key. IF you do need to take it apart all you need to do is heat the arm up and the Loctite will let go.

I have done the same thing on the IH wheel wedges that are prone to moving/walking. On my IH 1466 you could not keep the wheels form walking out. I cleaned them up and used the Loctite and they have not moved in 15 years. I have also used it on the front spindle on the tractor as well with good results.

The way I do it is to clean both parts up with brake clean. Then use Loctite #37509 cleaner /primer. Then used Loctite 609 retaining compound. Allow to fully cure.
 
(quoted from post at 14:36:24 11/30/15) The spindles go into a axle housing that should have bushing in them and if there bad or not kept greased will cause the spindles to turn hard and cause that type of problem
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I should have said I redid everything New spindles, new Arm, new bushings, new thrust bearing and new wheel bearings. Sorry
 

JD I had everything brand new clean. However I did loctite on old ones but didnt on new sprindles thinking it wouldnt need it. At this point loctite will need to wait till next spring so it will cure not freeze. Here in Alaska its 5 below zero! I dont have a warm place to keep it for 24 hrs till spring!
 
Not sure what grade keys are in it, but McMaster Carr offers alloy steel Rockwell 40 hardened keys.

Are you running oversize tires? Deep center wheels? Either will stress the steering.

Another thing to check, do the spindles hit the travel stop before the steering runs out of travel? If so,
can you add a travel limit to the steering assist cylinder?

I agree, 50 lbs torque sounds low. I would tighten them as tight as I dare without breaking the bolt.
 
If I were you I would put the old pars back on and weld them solid. They are just scrap anyway. I know people will laugh at you but at least you can use your tractor. Ok everybody beat me with a worn out fan belt or a roller chain!
 
(quoted from post at 17:29:54 11/30/15) If I were you I would put the old pars back on and weld them solid. They are just scrap anyway. I know people will laugh at you but at least you can use your tractor. Ok everybody beat me with a worn out fan belt or a roller chain!
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Moonlight I am seriously considering just a couple tac welds to hold steering arm to spindle top. But i was hoping some one would have a better idea!
 

What I just cant fathom is surely these tractors did not have this problem all the time. If they did they would have splined the spindles and arms. Right! There has to be something we are missing.
 
did you replace all the bearings and bushings [bearings bottom bushings top and bottom and then grease it with the wheel lifted off the ground so the bearing gets grease and not just come out of the top
 
You can still use Loctite. Warm the parts up and install them. Then just put a heat lamp with a cover over the top of the spindle arm and let it set. It will cure it just takes longer.
 
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