Removing wagon spindle

thartiga · Oct 31, 2015

John Deere 965 wagon gear. Any tricks to removing a stuck spindle? Removed top washer but only got it to move 1/4". Heating and beating doesn't seem to work

Tim

syco 1 · Oct 31, 2015

I have welded a bracket to the frame and put a hydraulic cylinder on where the tie rod goes keep working it heating and quenching then oil then repeat then repeat

farmerwithmutt · Oct 31, 2015

We had to split the spindle on one of mine
then re weld it back together. It looks
like you have some hope maybe soak it in
some good rust remover and wait or like me
in a hurry and can't leave it alone pour
oil push it back up then try going down and
keep working it back and forth plus lots of
oil and cuss words good luck

Joe W. · Oct 31, 2015

I'm not sure what you are asking. I've worked on many running gears and the spindles are welded to the axles. I had to reweld one spindle on the rear of a John Deere 953 that had broken. What is stuck? Is it the hub that you can't pull off the spindle? If so, I have had that happen a few times. Leave the tire on to give you some leverage to pull and also pound on the rear of the wheel and eventually it will come off. The problem, at least in my case, has been a rough spot or spots on the spindle that keeps the bearing from sliding off. Once off, I have always been able to file down the rough spots so that the bearings will slide on.

flying belgian · Oct 31, 2015

If you got it to move 1/4 inch seams like you have won the battle. Penetrating oil and move back and forth. Soon the 1/4 becomes a 1/2 and then 1".

Leroy · Oct 31, 2015

Not rear axle but front steering spindal. And there is a casting for both top and bottom that bolts to axle and the washer would be a thrust washer.

Leroy · Oct 31, 2015

You cannot do that on a John Deere as the spindal for the hub is on side of the vertical part of the axle in the middle and there is a casting on both top and bottom that the vertical part fits into and the castings are bolted to the axle. Other wagons yes your way will work but not on this model Deere.

thartiga · Oct 31, 2015

(quoted from post at 23:45:37 10/31/15) I'm not sure what you are asking. I've worked on many running gears and the spindles are welded to the axles. I had to reweld one spindle on the rear of a John Deere 953 that had broken. What is stuck? Is it the hub that you can't pull off the spindle? If so, I have had that happen a few times. Leave the tire on to give you some leverage to pull and also pound on the rear of the wheel and eventually it will come off. The problem, at least in my case, has been a rough spot or spots on the spindle that keeps the bearing from sliding off. Once off, I have always been able to file down the rough spots so that the bearings will slide on.

Where the spindle goes through the frame. Not the hub on the spindle.

showcrop · Oct 31, 2015

Heat and beat, but add penetrating oil to it. worked for me.

IaLeo · Oct 31, 2015

Took me almost a year of PB Blaster and wiggling the tongue back and forth to get one on a Sears wagon to loosen and take grease again. I had the luxery of time...retired and seldom needed the wagon. Leo

notjustair · Oct 31, 2015

I had to do a JD running gear last year. I got it about
1/2 inch and then filled the recess made by the
moved spindle with ATF. I went about my business
and came back to find it had run through. I kept at it
doing the same. I finally removed a board on the
deck and used a piece of well pipe and a BFH to
beat it out. In my case it was rusty and the rust was
falling down and binding it in.

Nebraska Cowman · Nov 1, 2015

More heating and beating with oil. It takes a while. If it moves a little pretty soon it will move more

Gordy in MN · Nov 1, 2015

I just checked the parts book and the 965 and 943 wagons are very similar. I had one stuck on a 943, a lot of heat and penetrating oil was able to move it like you did and finally was able to free it. I got it out, cleaned it up and works great now. To 953 and 963 wagons are totally different. Hope this helps Gordy

Mark-Ia · Nov 1, 2015

Heat and cool with water. Repeat

SDE · Nov 1, 2015

I have used a bottle jack to press them out of old wagons when the steering is stuck. I put a spacer over the spindle, and under the jack and a heavy piece of angle iron over the jack. I held it in place with chains, but a metal frame would be safer and easier to use.
SDE

K Effective · Nov 1, 2015

If you have been heating and beating, likely you have mushroomed the top of the spindle to where it will only get harder to push through now. Get a thin cutting blade for your angle grinder and slice the outer tube top to bottom. spread it ever so slightly with a couple of chisels, and it will slide out. Then clean both up, re-insert, tack weld in place, remove the spindle and reweld. Hone the inside out if needed. I have done a Deere, an Electric and a Gehl. Good results so far!

Leroy · Nov 1, 2015

The 953 and 963 are so simular that unless you know exactly what you are looking at you would not know one from the other. I think they both use the same pieces there on the axle.

thartiga · Nov 2, 2015

got the spindle out. Hooked the tie rod back up and worked it back and forth. It took grease after yesterday's heat. Hit it at the bottom vs the top to avoid mushroom. Cleaned up and back together.

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