New Tractor Saga is OVER, thanks for the advice!

Lanse

Well-known Member
Hey guys!

So, this is just an update to the couple of threads I've started lately about my quest for a new, or newer tractor. Well, I've made my decision, and bought the pictured tractor, a 2015 Mahindra 4540, in 2WD, with a front end loader!

It gets delivered on Monday and I'm super excited! :)

I did a TON of research on this before I bought it needless to say, and settled on the Mahindra for a variety of reasons. They're the largest tractor manufacturer in the WORLD, and this tractor can trace its lineage to British International tractors of the 50's and 60's, and it does, the entire rear end looks IDENTICAL to the 2444 it's replacing. I'll try to post some side by side pictures later on.

It's going to be great
>dat diesel reliability (and it has a SLOW turning diesel engine, PTO speed is only ~2000 RPM's, much slower than most new machines)
>Everything on it is very heavy and stout, it actually seems "more rigid" than my old IH
>It DOESNT have 50+ years of wear and tear and hackjob repairs on it to fix
>It's got a front end loader, that'll lift 2800+ pounds, outperforming most of its competition. My current tractor can only lift ~900 off the boom pole, but sometimes more if it's having a "good" day

I was a little leary of buying an Indian built tractor, until I discovered that this company is an OEM for New Holland and John Deere among others, and that the smaller tractors from both of those companies are also Indian made.

At first I wanted a Kubota, but it lifts less and also has a DPF filter on the exhaust, which the Mahindra luckily lacks.

Then, I thought about buying a New Holland Workmaster 55, until I discovered that they're actually fairly hard to find in my area (it seems NH cant import them fast enough), and the dealer I went to, who sells both brands, said that they have a lot more issues than this machine which is one of their top sellers.

And although I'm a pretty private person usually, I'll address the elephant in the room, and say that I paid $19,500 for the machine and loader before taxes and such. Figure that spread over a few years, and this tractor will actually cost me less than the old 2444, in terms of downtime, material/parts costs to work on, and my time which fortunately or unfortunately, isnt free.

Thats right, this thing will actually SAVE me money while increasing my productivity and plain and simple, although I didnt really want to go out and drop that much coin, it HAD to be done sooner or later, so I bit the bullet on this one and did it.

Plus I can lift 3 times as much, and lift it better (lets be honest here, boom poles are a little jankity and lack the control of an FEL.

Pretty thrilled!

Oh, right, the main reason I made this thread. I also shopped around for some used tractors, but they just plain and simple werent worth it. I could've paid $17k for a secondhand NH or Massey, or $14k for a 15 year old Kubota, but I decided having a (5 year) warranty and knowing I wouldn't have to screw with the thing (the main reason I was looking for something else in the first place) was worth spending 1/3 more. But,a big THANK YOU to everyone who posted in the last threads.

Have a great weekend all!

P/S I have no idea why the dealer parks tractors with the loaders up like that, they do it on every tractor in their lot
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Good question on why the dealer parks his tractors with the loader up, sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

I don't have any information on the service record on the Mahindras. I have noticed that the red paint on them seems to fade quickly. If you store it inside it shouldn't be a problem.

A new tractor (or vehicle) with warranty is nice to have. Repair issues on old tractors are not fun.

KEH
 
you did good buying a mahindra I have had a 6500 since 2007 they are well built tractors.You will get a lot of flack about them but it is only coming from those with JD or CIH stamped on their behinds
 
Did you get a quick change bucket/pallet forks??? That is the biggest feature I want in a loader tractor. Where you going to be using it to lift stuff as much as carry stuff the pallet forks would be handy for you.
 
Nice looking machine. I am sure you will enjoy it. I bought a new Branson several years ago and never looked back. So nice to get on and go to work and not worry. Love it. If you take care of it It will probably give you many years of good service.
19,500 is a pretty good price for the size of the machine you got in my opinion.

Enjoy,

Greg
 
congrats and good luck. Looks like a great deal. Had to chime in that when I worked for IH many moons ago, if somone let a customer leave a loader like that it was grounds for firing. Kids played on our tractors all the time. the boss was afraid one would be crushed. I think he was right.
 
Thanks man! Yeah, I thought it was a little odd but whatever! I like how I said "Every tractor in the lot was parked this way" yet the tractor in the background wasnt :D :D :D

Almost all of them were on second thought, I guess. I'll make it a point to always drop that loader at my place, if nothing else it makes it so the tractor is much harder for someone to steal
 
Thanks man! The kubota was $23,100 and honestly I would've paid it for resale value alone, but I didnt because of the aforementioned reasons (lower lift capacity, tractor less beefy, had DPF filter). It was kind of a bummer, I love Kubotas, but this was a much better deal. These things are getting EXPENSIVE! Wasnt a Farmall H like $960 or something new? Even with inflation I bet that's less than this, probably by thousands :/
 
No, just the regular old style, just like everything else on this tractor :p

It's going to basically be a forklift for me. I would've bought a forklift, except:

1) I like tractors better
2) I like working on tractors better
3) My lot isnt paved, its dirt*cough*mud
4) The tractor can also do tractor stuff, the forklift can only lift things
5) My shop is a wide open building, so the lost maneuverability isn't really a problem, especially for what I do
 
Thanks man! I loved reading threads about these tractors where people would whine about a poster having not bought a "domestic" tractor, only to see them
get brutally wrecked by everyone else in the thread who educated them on where tractors from the "other" companies were built :p

Glad yours is serving you well. I dont think I had even heard of Mahindra in 2007 haha
 
Yes indeed! Thanks for the kind wishes.

I al prepared to repaint this in a decade, I know that's a known issue on these. Still beats the Massey I almost bought, whose known issues include everything from electrical problems to catastrophic drivetrain failures :-I
 
(quoted from post at 16:17:48 10/30/15) Hey guys!

So, this is just an update to the couple of threads I've started lately about my quest for a new, or newer tractor. Well, I've made my decision, and bought the pictured tractor, a 2015 Mahindra 4540, in 2WD, with a front end loader!

It gets delivered on Monday and I'm super excited! :)

I did a TON of research on this before I bought it needless to say, and settled on the Mahindra for a variety of reasons. They're the largest tractor manufacturer in the WORLD, and this tractor can trace its lineage to British International tractors of the 50's and 60's, and it does, the entire rear end looks IDENTICAL to the 2444 it's replacing. I'll try to post some side by side pictures later on.

It's going to be great
>dat diesel reliability (and it has a SLOW turning diesel engine, PTO speed is only ~2000 RPM's, much slower than most new machines)
>Everything on it is very heavy and stout, it actually seems "more rigid" than my old IH
>It DOESNT have 50+ years of wear and tear and hackjob repairs on it to fix
>It's got a front end loader, that'll lift 2800+ pounds, outperforming most of its competition. My current tractor can only lift ~900 off the boom pole, but sometimes more if it's having a "good" day

I was a little leary of buying an Indian built tractor, until I discovered that this company is an OEM for New Holland and John Deere among others, and that the smaller tractors from both of those companies are also Indian made.

At first I wanted a Kubota, but it lifts less and also has a DPF filter on the exhaust, which the Mahindra luckily lacks.

Then, I thought about buying a New Holland Workmaster 55, until I discovered that they're actually fairly hard to find in my area (it seems NH cant import them fast enough), and the dealer I went to, who sells both brands, said that they have a lot more issues than this machine which is one of their top sellers.

And although I'm a pretty private person usually, I'll address the elephant in the room, and say that I paid $19,500 for the machine and loader before taxes and such. Figure that spread over a few years, and this tractor will actually cost me less than the old 2444, in terms of downtime, material/parts costs to work on, and my time which fortunately or unfortunately, isnt free.

Thats right, this thing will actually SAVE me money while increasing my productivity and plain and simple, although I didnt really want to go out and drop that much coin, it HAD to be done sooner or later, so I bit the bullet on this one and did it.

Plus I can lift 3 times as much, and lift it better (lets be honest here, boom poles are a little jankity and lack the control of an FEL.

Pretty thrilled!

Oh, right, the main reason I made this thread. I also shopped around for some used tractors, but they just plain and simple werent worth it. I could've paid $17k for a secondhand NH or Massey, or $14k for a 15 year old Kubota, but I decided having a (5 year) warranty and knowing I wouldn't have to screw with the thing (the main reason I was looking for something else in the first place) was worth spending 1/3 more. But,a big THANK YOU to everyone who posted in the last threads.

Have a great weekend all!

P/S I have no idea why the dealer parks tractors with the loaders up like that, they do it on every tractor in their lot
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That tractor looks a little small to be lifting 2800#......loader may do it, but is the tractor heavy enough to do it safely??
 
1) I probably wont do that very often :p
2) Yes, it weights about 5,000 pounds
3) Either way, I plan on building it a ballast box, since that couldn't hurt! :)
 
Lanse you can make your bucket a quick tach and then pick up some pallet forks and make your frame for them. Before quick tach brackets became common we made a system that only required one pin to change the attachment.


Basically a square frame. Made out of square tubing top and bottom. Then angle iron sides with the holes for your loader arms and bucket pins. So you have the frame attached to your loader. Then you make a Box shape just a little bigger than the loader square frame, on the back of the bucket. The top being a piece of channel iron with the "C" down. The top of the loader square fits up into the channel iron. Then on the bottom you have two tabs that are parallel with the bottom tube. The tabs stick out behind the bottom tube far enough for a pin to go behind the loader square frame. I know I am not explaining it very well. The great part is it does not stick the load any further out in front of the loader. Plus you do not modify the loader at all. Just the bucket.
 
Should be a good machine for you. I would plan on putting some weight on the back end before you go to work. Overall its a pretty light machine to expect it to lift 2800. Its not really a fun feeling when the rear end comes up unexpectedly.
 
Yep, that's DEFINITELY a "Yesterday's Tractor", and a SLAP in the face for those of us who enjoy classic American iron and against the very theme of this website, but a typical yuppie tractor.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but does Mom drive a Prius?

SORRY for venting, but who goes on a yuppie tractor board and brags about their old Massive Ferguson or Binder or Ford or DEERE classic tractor?
 
It looks like you've come a long way, and done really good for yourself, since you first started posting on here as a kid that enjoyed screwing around with lawnmowers....and ticking off a bunch of 'old farts'.....LOL

Seriously, it appears you've learned a valuable lesson real quick, time is money, and when you work for yourself that fact is even more relevant than ever. Right now I'm working on the organization part in my shop. After moving much of dad's stuff in to my shop last year, it's not unusual for it to take an hour of moving stuff to do an hour paying job. This sucks, but it is what it is, and I'm working my tail off trying to get things straightened out.

As far as your tractor choice, I've hard some good things about the Mahindra's, and your right, most folks would be really surprised if they knew who actually made their "American made", "American name brand" tractor.

Given that your working outside on gravel, you also made a good choice with the tractor over a forklift. Yes, you could have gone with one of the off road types, but most of those would have been a bit overkill in the lift capacity from what your saying. Like this, as you say, you have the lift you need, as well as the tractor capabilities. Smart move if you ask me.

I wish you continued good luck, and keep posting. It's nice to see you back on here more often now, after such a long hiatus.
 
try taking a solid tire forklift where that tractor can go. Good choice for what you are going to use it for. Bill
 
(quoted from post at 19:48:34 10/30/15) Yep, that's DEFINITELY a "Yesterday's Tractor", and a SLAP in the face for those of us who enjoy classic American iron and against the very theme of this website, but a typical yuppie tractor.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but does Mom drive a Prius?

SORRY for venting, but who goes on a yuppie tractor board and brags about their old Massive Ferguson or Binder or Ford or DEERE classic tractor?

What is classic depends on your view point. The steam engine crowd likely felt the same way when people thought collecting letter series IHs was in.

"Classic tractor" isn't just the 1940's and 50's stuff. Some Mahindras are based on old IH tooling, from 60's/70's but modernized. It is interesting since the "classic" heritage is there, even if built overseas.

Besides, what Lanse bought is a utility tractor, the "classic tractor" guys are more apt to appreciate a farm tractor rather than the yuppies who want to know what size of mid mount mower it takes and what the payments are like.
 
(quoted from post at 21:40:47 10/30/15)

That tractor looks a little small to be lifting 2800#......loader may do it, but is the tractor heavy enough to do it safely??

I agree on appears too light to pick up 2800#s. Lanse will need a lot of counterbalance on the rear to keep tractor stable.

BTW Lanse congratulations on the purchase.
 
jd ,,. I think I would like to see a drawing or a pix of that ,,. sounds like a do abl e project on this place
 
You did good doing some research first. The Mahindra company has been around a long time. You did the right thing in deciding whether you wanted to work on old tractors or just have something you can get on and go.

No fun getting a forklift stuck in the gravel! (mud)
 
All the tractor makers have a line of import budget driven utility tractors, and why not? Everyone that has a couple acres has a need for a tractor.
JD...a line from India & Japan
NH...a line from Italy & Japan
MF...a line from Turkey & Japan
Case/IH...a line from Turkey & Japan
So, why not a Mahindra, I think it will serve you as well as the rest of the tractors in this category. I can tell you are excited about the arrival of the new tractor....I've been there. Hope it serves you well, I know you will take good care of it.
 
Bob, Lanse was a regular poster on here as a teenager, several years ago. He had some personal and family issues that he posted about, and became kind of the "mascot" of lots of guys on here. He went to welding school, became a skilled fabricator and made something of himself, but kind of drifted away from the board after some of the curmudgeons gave him gas about some things. Many are glad to see him back, under whatever pretense.

And as for "yuppie" tractors, I like the old ones as well as anyone, and have several, but when I want to get some work done (without breaking something), my 2006 Kubota MX5000 is the one I turn to. He's going to use it in his work, and I think he made the right choice. He can't afford to be wrenching on his own stuff when he could be billing his time on customer work.
 
Just picked up my 4550 Friday. Looks just like your except mine is 4x4. I got the brush grapple and 6 foot rotary cutter also.
 
shuzzzzzz don't let it get out that jd and others especially jd the most highly innovative prefect tractors and combines in the world is selling someone else's tractors using their colors and emblems on them,coworker wanted a small tractor and took green fever, until I pointed it out to him what the deal was with the small tractors,i told him too look closely at them other than the paint color and sales literature the jd he was drooling about was a Yanmar not that there was anything wrong with them but sales hype and price,neighbor bought a 1050 jd years ago and it has been rode hard and put up wet and still going but it is a jd only from the standpoint of the paint and emblems rest is YANMAR
 
JD's quick connect. I'm thinking it sounds something like the quick disconnects on Bobcats. The square tubing frame attaches more-or-less permanently on the tractor while each attachment gets a channel iron frame. The channel iron part then 'hangs' on the top of the square tubing and the tabs and pins lock it on and keep it from sliding sideways. That about right?

You could then make your own forks by welding some channel to one of the 'attachment' frames.
 
Wax it. Keep the paint protected.
If you decide you need a quick-tach, you'd probably be better off in the long run to buy one.
That way anything a skid-steer can hook to, so can you.
Run a set of hoses from a remote to the loader frame near the bucket and you can run those attachments, too.

If you need a loader attachment, rent it for a week. Go back in another week and you may be able to buy it at a discount because it's used.
 

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