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Master Sergeant Joshua L. Wheeler paid the ultimate price, for our continued freedom, yesterday. He was killed on an attack on an ISIS prison. He leaves behind a wife and four sons. He was 39 years old. He should have had many years left on this plain before he took his seat beside the man above. Here is a brief summation of what this man had done in his career:

"Wheeler joined the Army at 19 and was just a month short of turning 40 when he died -- a long, 20-plus-year career in combat. In the course of that career, Wheeler earned a stunning 11 Bronze Stars, including four with the "Valor Device" for particular acts of heroism.

He served as a U.S. Army Ranger and then joined U.S. Army Special Operations Command in 2004, after which he deployed 11 times in support of combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army said. Those deployments would have been as part of Delta Force, according to U.S. military sources."

My prayers will include his family and friends. They are suffering a terrible lose. The sad part is that I think we are just seeing the start of this with ISIS. There will be many more before this plague is ran from the face of this planet. ISIS needs to be fought with FULL war not this supporting action type of stuff. People need to learn an remember that there will be innocents killed in all out war. It happened in WWII and others wars too. The difference is you can "see" very easily today. The dust will barely settle before there are pictures posted about what is happening. These pictures are spun by our enemies and the world media to make the US look as bad as possible.

This is a religious war that could very well be the start of WW III. These fools believe that a world wide war will create their promised land. In this land THEY would rule over all others. So if your a woman or an many other minorities you need to really pay attention to this ISIS movement. If they gain future foot holds their radical view could easily spread world wide. There could be home grown support around the world.
 
Indeed he is a true hero. My prayers and condolences to his family. The sad part is that his family will be denied combat death benefits because the action was a support mission and not declared combat, how ridiculous. Hopefully someone in Washington will wake up and see his family is taken care of. It is the least the American people can do for his sacrifice and the sacrifice of his family.
 
Do not know if it is true or not but I heard his family will not get one red cent due to his death due to it being some thing that was not a full army operation
 
Thank You Master Sergeant Joshua L. Wheeler for keeping me and my family safe. I see what's happening overseas, in some countries they have let them immigrate in great numbers and have changed laws to accommodate them. It scares me. It seems like our constitution has been drug through the mud lately and the Supreme Court is riding ruff shod all over us. Just look at the death penalty here in Nebraska. How many times do we have to keep voting it back in?
 
I heard of this on the radio today. Not only has he paid a great sacrifice but so has his family and all who were close to him. They should be proud of his long service to our country. Unfortunately, I suspect our president will barely acknowledge this fine American.
 
(quoted from post at 16:52:43 10/23/15) Do not know if it is true or not but I heard his family will not get one red cent due to his death due to it being some thing that was not a full army operation
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Not true. A family gets death bennies if a soldier dies in a car wreck here in the US. So that's a load or BS.

The death gratuity payment is $12,420, and is non-taxable. For those whose death is as a result of hostile actions and occurred in a [b:10bedf8224]designated combat operation or combat zone[/b:10bedf8224] or while training for combat or performing hazardous duty, the payment is $100,000.

Unpaid Pay and Allowances. Upon death of an active duty member, any pay and allowances due, but not paid to the member, are paid to the designated beneficiary named on the member’s DD Form 93, Record of Emergency Data.

Unpaid pay and allowances may include unpaid basic pay, payment for up to 60 days of accrued leave, amounts due for travel, per diem expenses, transportation of eligible family members, shipment of household goods, and unpaid installments of variable reenlistment bonuses. The decedent’s pay record is completely audited by the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, and a check for any amount due is issued to the designated beneficiary.

(SGLI). The SGLI payment is $400,000 unless the member elected a lesser amount or declined coverage in writing. Non taxable.

Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP). SBP is a monthly annuity paid by the military to the surviving spouse or, in some cases, eligible children, of a member who dies on active duty. The initial annuity paid to a surviving spouse is equal to 55 percent of the retired pay to which the member would have been entitled based upon years of active service if retired on the date of death (if the member was retirement-eligible).

The annuity is reduced by the amount of the monthly DIC payment awarded and paid to the surviving spouse by the Department of VA. When the surviving spouse reaches age 62, the annuity is reduced to 35 percent. The annuity is paid until the spouse dies, but is suspended upon remarriage before age 55. The annuity to a surviving spouse may be reinstated if the subsequent marriage ends in death or divorce. The annuitant must send a certified copy of the divorce decree or death certificate to DFAS-DE to reinstate the annuity. If a second SBP benefit resulted from the remarriage, the surviving spouse must elect which of the two SBP benefits to receive. Should the surviving spouse remarry at age 55 or older, the annuitant will continue to receive the monthly annuity.

Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC). The DIC payments may be authorized for surviving spouses who have not remarried, unmarried children under age 18, disabled children, children between the age of 18 and 23 if attending a VA-approved school, and low-income parents of Service members who die from:
•A disease or injury incurred or aggravated while on active duty or active duty for training.
•An injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty while on inactive duty training.

Plus a surviving spouse and any children are eligible for some VA bennies too such as much as 48 months of assistance wile attending a VA approved school.

Plus they keep their ID cards and can use military medical facilities, Tri Care and keep commissary and PX privileges.

There is more but it's a lot of reading.

The surviving spouse will has a causality assistants office assigned to help them wade through everything. The death gratuity payment is made within 48 hours of the death being reported.

So whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about. Besides, a mission like that in support or foreign troops that we have been training is an authorized mission.

Rick
 
Very sad about the young man for sure.What has brought on the rise of ISIS is the United
States' program to run the dictators out of their countries in the Mideast.Nothing new about what they are trying to do, really they're trying to recreate the Ottoman Empire.Big mistake
to ever attack Iraq.Libya,Egypt and Syria are far worse places since we got into their internal
politics.Afghanistan will dissolve into total chaos and bloodbath once we leave. Our last 2 Presidents have been total failures with their Mideast policies.
 

On the evening news they told how there were 60 Kurds and 30 Americans as advisors. The Kurds were pinned down immediately upon exiting the choppers, so our guys had to take the lead for them and get the job done. Amazing how our boys with their equipment, training, and most of all, courage, seem to be able to almost always get the job done where others can't.
 
Showcrop: You have to realize our soldiers have equipment that most soldiers can only dream about. Also I think it is part of our culture that create that can-do or get-it-done type of personalities. Individual action is honored and desired in our country. In many countries it is not wanted.
 
I can only go by what I have heard but what I did hear was this was a black op thing and the U.S.A gov will not say it was by orders so he died doing what as for the Gov he was not suppose to be doing. Again I am just going by what I have been told by another person if true sad but either way just passing on info I was told
 
It's about time someone stood up to these thugs, that knows what they are doing. Too bad we lost a good man in the process. I think President "O" can change things so his family gets benefits. I hope he will. Stan
 
>the U.S.A gov will not say it was by orders so he died doing what as for the Gov he was not suppose to be doing.

Are you saying the US Secretary of Defense does not represent the US government? I suggest you stop paying attention to such nonsense.
Defense Secretary Carter says soldier heroically entered Kurdish IS firefight
 
(quoted from post at 19:56:53 10/23/15) I'd say more but do not want to be booted off of this site. I know and have heard lots of things but will not say them here
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Hey, don't push it so hard. No one accused you of making a false statement. I believe you were told that. All I said was you passed on bad info that someone gave you.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 19:56:53 10/23/15) I'd say more but do not want to be booted off of this site. I know and have heard lots of things but will not say them here
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OH I should add that about the only time you hear about a "black op" is when someone leaks it to the news media. A secret op can be talked about in some cases after the fact. Like the raid to get Bin Laden. The term "black op" is normally associated with something that's actually illegal by our laws. Hence they want to keep it black. Nothing that could tie our government to the operation at all. Even the service members go in wearing and carrying nothing that can ID them as US citizens much less service members in most cases. The president or secretary of defense darn sure don't get in front of a camera and talk about it.

Most often when an operation remains a secret is because the technique or technology used will be used again and we don't want anyone to know about it.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 02:15:23 10/24/15)
(quoted from post at 16:52:43 10/23/15) Do not know if it is true or not but I heard his family will not get one red cent due to his death due to it being some thing that was not a full army operation
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Not true. A family gets death bennies if a soldier dies in a car wreck here in the US. So that's a load or BS.

The death gratuity payment is $12,420, and is non-taxable. For those whose death is as a result of hostile actions and occurred in a [b:8b97ef821a]designated combat operation or combat zone[/b:8b97ef821a] or while training for combat or performing hazardous duty, the payment is $100,000.

Unpaid Pay and Allowances. Upon death of an active duty member, any pay and allowances due, but not paid to the member, are paid to the designated beneficiary named on the member’s DD Form 93, Record of Emergency Data.

Unpaid pay and allowances may include unpaid basic pay, payment for up to 60 days of accrued leave, amounts due for travel, per diem expenses, transportation of eligible family members, shipment of household goods, and unpaid installments of variable reenlistment bonuses. The decedent’s pay record is completely audited by the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, and a check for any amount due is issued to the designated beneficiary.

(SGLI). The SGLI payment is $400,000 unless the member elected a lesser amount or declined coverage in writing. Non taxable.

Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP). SBP is a monthly annuity paid by the military to the surviving spouse or, in some cases, eligible children, of a member who dies on active duty. The initial annuity paid to a surviving spouse is equal to 55 percent of the retired pay to which the member would have been entitled based upon years of active service if retired on the date of death (if the member was retirement-eligible).

The annuity is reduced by the amount of the monthly DIC payment awarded and paid to the surviving spouse by the Department of VA. When the surviving spouse reaches age 62, the annuity is reduced to 35 percent. The annuity is paid until the spouse dies, but is suspended upon remarriage before age 55. The annuity to a surviving spouse may be reinstated if the subsequent marriage ends in death or divorce. The annuitant must send a certified copy of the divorce decree or death certificate to DFAS-DE to reinstate the annuity. If a second SBP benefit resulted from the remarriage, the surviving spouse must elect which of the two SBP benefits to receive. Should the surviving spouse remarry at age 55 or older, the annuitant will continue to receive the monthly annuity.

Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC). The DIC payments may be authorized for surviving spouses who have not remarried, unmarried children under age 18, disabled children, children between the age of 18 and 23 if attending a VA-approved school, and low-income parents of Service members who die from:
•A disease or injury incurred or aggravated while on active duty or active duty for training.
•An injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty while on inactive duty training.

Plus a surviving spouse and any children are eligible for some VA bennies too such as much as 48 months of assistance wile attending a VA approved school.

Plus they keep their ID cards and can use military medical facilities, Tri Care and keep commissary and PX privileges.

There is more but it's a lot of reading.

The surviving spouse will has a causality assistants office assigned to help them wade through everything. The death gratuity payment is made within 48 hours of the death being reported.

So whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about. Besides, a mission like that in support or foreign troops that we have been training is an authorized mission.

Rick
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There isn't enough money in the world to replace one human life. I despise politicians that send our young people into the meat grinder we call war.
 
(quoted from post at 05:41:45 10/26/15)
(quoted from post at 02:15:23 10/24/15)
(quoted from post at 16:52:43 10/23/15) Do not know if it is true or not but I heard his family will not get one red cent due to his death due to it being some thing that was not a full army operation
Click to expand...

Not true. A family gets death bennies if a soldier dies in a car wreck here in the US. So that's a load or BS.

The death gratuity payment is $12,420, and is non-taxable. For those whose death is as a result of hostile actions and occurred in a [b:b1dc4ebed7]designated combat operation or combat zone[/b:b1dc4ebed7] or while training for combat or performing hazardous duty, the payment is $100,000.

Unpaid Pay and Allowances. Upon death of an active duty member, any pay and allowances due, but not paid to the member, are paid to the designated beneficiary named on the member’s DD Form 93, Record of Emergency Data.

Unpaid pay and allowances may include unpaid basic pay, payment for up to 60 days of accrued leave, amounts due for travel, per diem expenses, transportation of eligible family members, shipment of household goods, and unpaid installments of variable reenlistment bonuses. The decedent’s pay record is completely audited by the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, and a check for any amount due is issued to the designated beneficiary.

(SGLI). The SGLI payment is $400,000 unless the member elected a lesser amount or declined coverage in writing. Non taxable.

Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP). SBP is a monthly annuity paid by the military to the surviving spouse or, in some cases, eligible children, of a member who dies on active duty. The initial annuity paid to a surviving spouse is equal to 55 percent of the retired pay to which the member would have been entitled based upon years of active service if retired on the date of death (if the member was retirement-eligible).

The annuity is reduced by the amount of the monthly DIC payment awarded and paid to the surviving spouse by the Department of VA. When the surviving spouse reaches age 62, the annuity is reduced to 35 percent. The annuity is paid until the spouse dies, but is suspended upon remarriage before age 55. The annuity to a surviving spouse may be reinstated if the subsequent marriage ends in death or divorce. The annuitant must send a certified copy of the divorce decree or death certificate to DFAS-DE to reinstate the annuity. If a second SBP benefit resulted from the remarriage, the surviving spouse must elect which of the two SBP benefits to receive. Should the surviving spouse remarry at age 55 or older, the annuitant will continue to receive the monthly annuity.

Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC). The DIC payments may be authorized for surviving spouses who have not remarried, unmarried children under age 18, disabled children, children between the age of 18 and 23 if attending a VA-approved school, and low-income parents of Service members who die from:
•A disease or injury incurred or aggravated while on active duty or active duty for training.
•An injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty while on inactive duty training.

Plus a surviving spouse and any children are eligible for some VA bennies too such as much as 48 months of assistance wile attending a VA approved school.

Plus they keep their ID cards and can use military medical facilities, Tri Care and keep commissary and PX privileges.

There is more but it's a lot of reading.

The surviving spouse will has a causality assistants office assigned to help them wade through everything. The death gratuity payment is made within 48 hours of the death being reported.

So whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about. Besides, a mission like that in support or foreign troops that we have been training is an authorized mission.

Rick
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There isn't enough money in the world to replace one human life. I despise politicians that send our young people into the meat grinder we call war.
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You must have missed it when in 2001 enemies of our nation killed 3,000 of our innocent people almost all civilians, young and old, on our own soil. If you google World Trade Center you can read about it.
 
(quoted from post at 13:53:41 10/26/15) L.Fure is a firm believer in turning the other cheek.Even if it's on a severed head!
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Pick up a riffle a go yourself. Don't just sit there and talk tough while someone else's son or daughter dyes for our comfort.

Things in the middle east got the way they are because of this countries meddling. It pretty much started after WWI. Then got worse when we exploited the oil that was found there. It started to really spill out of that region after our country helped defeat the Russian's in Afghanistan. They expected some help rebuilding their country, but were left in the ruins and forgotten.
 
(quoted from post at 13:54:54 10/26/15)
(quoted from post at 05:41:45 10/26/15)
(quoted from post at 02:15:23 10/24/15)
(quoted from post at 16:52:43 10/23/15) Do not know if it is true or not but I heard his family will not get one red cent due to his death due to it being some thing that was not a full army operation
Click to expand...

Not true. A family gets death bennies if a soldier dies in a car wreck here in the US. So that's a load or BS.

The death gratuity payment is $12,420, and is non-taxable. For those whose death is as a result of hostile actions and occurred in a [b:a51de80d01]designated combat operation or combat zone[/b:a51de80d01] or while training for combat or performing hazardous duty, the payment is $100,000.

Unpaid Pay and Allowances. Upon death of an active duty member, any pay and allowances due, but not paid to the member, are paid to the designated beneficiary named on the member’s DD Form 93, Record of Emergency Data.

Unpaid pay and allowances may include unpaid basic pay, payment for up to 60 days of accrued leave, amounts due for travel, per diem expenses, transportation of eligible family members, shipment of household goods, and unpaid installments of variable reenlistment bonuses. The decedent’s pay record is completely audited by the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, and a check for any amount due is issued to the designated beneficiary.

(SGLI). The SGLI payment is $400,000 unless the member elected a lesser amount or declined coverage in writing. Non taxable.

Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP). SBP is a monthly annuity paid by the military to the surviving spouse or, in some cases, eligible children, of a member who dies on active duty. The initial annuity paid to a surviving spouse is equal to 55 percent of the retired pay to which the member would have been entitled based upon years of active service if retired on the date of death (if the member was retirement-eligible).

The annuity is reduced by the amount of the monthly DIC payment awarded and paid to the surviving spouse by the Department of VA. When the surviving spouse reaches age 62, the annuity is reduced to 35 percent. The annuity is paid until the spouse dies, but is suspended upon remarriage before age 55. The annuity to a surviving spouse may be reinstated if the subsequent marriage ends in death or divorce. The annuitant must send a certified copy of the divorce decree or death certificate to DFAS-DE to reinstate the annuity. If a second SBP benefit resulted from the remarriage, the surviving spouse must elect which of the two SBP benefits to receive. Should the surviving spouse remarry at age 55 or older, the annuitant will continue to receive the monthly annuity.

Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC). The DIC payments may be authorized for surviving spouses who have not remarried, unmarried children under age 18, disabled children, children between the age of 18 and 23 if attending a VA-approved school, and low-income parents of Service members who die from:
•A disease or injury incurred or aggravated while on active duty or active duty for training.
•An injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty while on inactive duty training.

Plus a surviving spouse and any children are eligible for some VA bennies too such as much as 48 months of assistance wile attending a VA approved school.

Plus they keep their ID cards and can use military medical facilities, Tri Care and keep commissary and PX privileges.

There is more but it's a lot of reading.

The surviving spouse will has a causality assistants office assigned to help them wade through everything. The death gratuity payment is made within 48 hours of the death being reported.

So whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about. Besides, a mission like that in support or foreign troops that we have been training is an authorized mission.

Rick
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There isn't enough money in the world to replace one human life. I despise politicians that send our young people into the meat grinder we call war.
Click to expand...

You must have missed it when in 2001 enemies of our nation killed 3,000 of our innocent people almost all civilians, young and old, on our own soil. If you google World Trade Center you can read about it.
Click to expand...

There's a lot of bad history that led up to that event. Our country wasn't as innocent as we like to think it was leading up to those events. It made me sick to watch what went on during the attacks on the twin towers, and new the fat was in the fire then. But our country had no business attacking Iraq when we did. Anyway, I wish the sword rattlers would just keep quiet and let diplomacy do it's job. If you feel differently about this join the military and have at it. Don't send our best and brightest into the meat grinder because you think we should put on our big boots and kick some a$$.
 
(quoted from post at 07:21:22 10/26/15)
(quoted from post at 13:54:54 10/26/15)
(quoted from post at 05:41:45 10/26/15)
(quoted from post at 02:15:23 10/24/15)
(quoted from post at 16:52:43 10/23/15) Do not know if it is true or not but I heard his family will not get one red cent due to his death due to it being some thing that was not a full army operation
Click to expand...

Not true. A family gets death bennies if a soldier dies in a car wreck here in the US. So that's a load or BS.

The death gratuity payment is $12,420, and is non-taxable. For those whose death is as a result of hostile actions and occurred in a [b:31e6c447c4]designated combat operation or combat zone[/b:31e6c447c4] or while training for combat or performing hazardous duty, the payment is $100,000.

Unpaid Pay and Allowances. Upon death of an active duty member, any pay and allowances due, but not paid to the member, are paid to the designated beneficiary named on the member’s DD Form 93, Record of Emergency Data.

Unpaid pay and allowances may include unpaid basic pay, payment for up to 60 days of accrued leave, amounts due for travel, per diem expenses, transportation of eligible family members, shipment of household goods, and unpaid installments of variable reenlistment bonuses. The decedent’s pay record is completely audited by the Defense Finance and Accounting Service, and a check for any amount due is issued to the designated beneficiary.

(SGLI). The SGLI payment is $400,000 unless the member elected a lesser amount or declined coverage in writing. Non taxable.

Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP). SBP is a monthly annuity paid by the military to the surviving spouse or, in some cases, eligible children, of a member who dies on active duty. The initial annuity paid to a surviving spouse is equal to 55 percent of the retired pay to which the member would have been entitled based upon years of active service if retired on the date of death (if the member was retirement-eligible).

The annuity is reduced by the amount of the monthly DIC payment awarded and paid to the surviving spouse by the Department of VA. When the surviving spouse reaches age 62, the annuity is reduced to 35 percent. The annuity is paid until the spouse dies, but is suspended upon remarriage before age 55. The annuity to a surviving spouse may be reinstated if the subsequent marriage ends in death or divorce. The annuitant must send a certified copy of the divorce decree or death certificate to DFAS-DE to reinstate the annuity. If a second SBP benefit resulted from the remarriage, the surviving spouse must elect which of the two SBP benefits to receive. Should the surviving spouse remarry at age 55 or older, the annuitant will continue to receive the monthly annuity.

Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC). The DIC payments may be authorized for surviving spouses who have not remarried, unmarried children under age 18, disabled children, children between the age of 18 and 23 if attending a VA-approved school, and low-income parents of Service members who die from:
•A disease or injury incurred or aggravated while on active duty or active duty for training.
•An injury incurred or aggravated in line of duty while on inactive duty training.

Plus a surviving spouse and any children are eligible for some VA bennies too such as much as 48 months of assistance wile attending a VA approved school.

Plus they keep their ID cards and can use military medical facilities, Tri Care and keep commissary and PX privileges.

There is more but it's a lot of reading.

The surviving spouse will has a causality assistants office assigned to help them wade through everything. The death gratuity payment is made within 48 hours of the death being reported.

So whoever told you that has no idea what they are talking about. Besides, a mission like that in support or foreign troops that we have been training is an authorized mission.

Rick
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There isn't enough money in the world to replace one human life. I despise politicians that send our young people into the meat grinder we call war.
Click to expand...

You must have missed it when in 2001 enemies of our nation killed 3,000 of our innocent people almost all civilians, young and old, on our own soil. If you google World Trade Center you can read about it.
Click to expand...

There's a lot of bad history that led up to that event. Our country wasn't as innocent as we like to think it was leading up to those events. It made me sick to watch what went on during the attacks on the twin towers, and new the fat was in the fire then. But our country had no business attacking Iraq when we did. Anyway, I wish the sword rattlers would just keep quiet and let diplomacy do it's job. If you feel differently about this join the military and have at it. Don't send our best and brightest into the meat grinder because you think we should put on our big boots and kick some a$$.
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Myself and a lot of others on here have carried that rifle (or in my case rode that tank). Some of us for a lot of years. Some of us would go back and do it again if we could.

Some of your statements are not correct. We had very little to do in the middle east until after WWII. Most of what went on before that was the Brits (lot of north Africa was the French). It was only after WWII when we took land to give to form Israel that we started messing around in the middle east and north Africa.

Diplomacy seldom works in most of the world. The problem is that BOTH sides have to negotiate with honest intent of keeping their end of any bargain struck. The recent diplomacy that I see failing is the nuclear deal with Iran because Iran has no intention of keeping their end of the bargain. So in the long run we will have one more nuclear power in the world belonging to a nation that's basic religious principles would encourage using it and not having it just as a deterrent.

Rick
 
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