It's Official

Duramax is the work truck (has to live outside) and the Power Stroke is the Sunday-go-to-meeting truck.

Traded off the two old Chevy 4x4's to get one newer one. Hope it lasts.

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Hey Allan, You will soon wonder why you bought that ford.

That is a purdy truck!

I'm surprised he hasn't figured it out already! That pretty White Chebby will be IN the shop SOOOOON!

Good Luck is all I can say.

I would drive that white truck on Sundays too

I'm on my second Duramax, besides normal maitanance like brakes, tie rod ends ect, the only thing I fixed was a Mass Air Sensor on the first and some sensor on the new one, all under warranty.

I think you did a good deal. Now .tell us about the forest you live in , I thought you live on the "bald head prairie" ,nice place.

Not really,

This guy can't hold a candle to the Ford.

Allan

I had a ford ONCE

Probably the only time it's in the shop for a oil change and wax job. Last company pickup I had was like that, sure liked that Allison trany.

Bryce; I thought you were a Chebby guy ?

Had a neighbor buy one that looks like that sheet metal, early 2000? Duramax and Allison, 3/4 ton regular cab, long bed, 4wd. Works it every day, said no problems. Uses a Toyota Tacoma for his get around, a few years older.

ford quit building real trux in 1979,, they do make good shop trux ..because they seem to like going there . to be fixt ////cummins dodge is hard to beat especially the 12 valve

Seems a little on the "thirsty" side to me? Do they really only get 16 mpg?

Allan

Wait to his dad finds out what he posted!!

In my part of the world Chevys are used for pulling campers. Fords and Dodges are used for heavy hauling. Fords 7.3 is a great engine with no problems. The 6.0 is great after new head bolts. My brother has a Duramax and spent thousand on injector problems. Bottom line, they all work, buy the one you like.

I have asked my brother about his,and I think that's what he gets('05 Duramax). And for everyone making fun of Chevies,around here,most farmers have Chevies,maybe70%. And,my son works at a shop where most of their work is Ford trucks (diesel) almost exclusively!They will work on anything,but Ford keeps the lights on!Mark

I AM a Chevy guy?! LOVE EM thats why I think HE will love it too, and when he does, it will be in the shop!

(quoted from post at 22:53:46 07/22/15) Duramax is the work truck (has to live outside) and the Power Stroke is the Sunday-go-to-meeting truck.

Traded off the two old Chevy 4x4's to get one newer one. Hope it lasts.

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I have watched you tube videos of side by side mountain climb tests both pulling identical weighted trailers, in every test I have seen the Duramax bested the Ford by a wide margin. The consensus was that even though the Ford rated a bit higher in advertised HP the overall driveline was superior at putting the power down. The Duramax exhaust brake was very effecient on the Chev according to the report. This was the latest edition of the Power Stroke that was tested against.

This is and always be a partisan issue with folks on both sides, but I believe from my experiences watching Ford trying to get the diesel right that as some have said the 7.3 is their best effort yet and much superior to their current offering in longevity

Allen I think you will be happy with it. The construction company we maintained trucks for went away from the fords many years ago and bought Duramax and Cummings. The boys in the shop started calling the fords jokestrokes. They have now gone to Duramax with the Allisons and have far-far fewer problems with them than the off brand they had in the past. They pull anything from lawn mower trailers to Cat backhoes with them.

That has been our experience. The injectors will eat any spare money you ever have in your pocket. The 6 speed manual transmission is a joke too.

You mean, the Garage, and the ford outside.

FWIW, a fellow who used to work for me is now managing a shop that services some 70 ambulances spotted over eastern Nebraska.

When he started the job, they had all 6.0 Fords. He said when they swapped them all out for Chevies, they cut maintenance costs by over half.

I'll admit, though, an ambulance has to be rough duty on an engine. It's either idling for hours or running flat out.

My theory on all this name calling on trucks, if the horse is running stay in the saddle. Since I've been a Ford Parts manager
for 41 years I've seen good & not so good in all of them. I've had people tell me it's their last Ford & the worst one they ever
had & the people that buy claim its the best used truck they had & cannot understand why the original owner parted ways. The 6.0
has kept the lights on at this Ford store. So many of the issue we have is people think they need more power & add programmers &
this will end up to needing something else somewhere else on the engine or trans. I've had one Amish customer that has worked a 7.3,
6.0's 6.4 & now 6.7 like NO ONE other with really over all little problems. Pulls a 5th wheel loaded full of lumber, & hauls 450 dozers
540 skidders everywhere. I will say his 6.4 with radiator issue was the worst one he's owned... Then we have some that can't leave the
store for over a month. We have many that we only see for just normal service. Most of our customers who own a diesel pickup really
don't need one, they pull a camper 2 weeks out of the year 100 miles & that's IT!!!! Pay the price for the rest of the year to keep
oil's & Higher fuel price's & fuel filters. The Motor homes that sit idle for 8 months & then get run for a 5000 miles trip have their
issue with stuck V/Vain turbo's . I know of many that were Just POS since day one. It's the vehicles that were good & some guys just can't
leave them alone are the real problem. When the government changed the fuels it created another whole batch of issues. We all know they
truly do run better with all the delete's, if the GOVERMENT that created the Emissions & it's the emissions that have created most of
the problems all diesels have, LACK of maintainence is another. We've had Used Chevy's & Dodge Diesels that have been good & bad
I see more New & Used Fords since we are Ford & I've seen my share of Bad ones & Some self inflicted bad ones. I have a whole batch of
customers with even the 6.0 Approaching 500,000 miles still going strong. My best advice with a Ford INT Diesel is run them like you
stole them. So far the 6.7 has been better, but I've seen some issues with them as well, again some of those issues are self inflicted
& some ARE NOT. As for me I don't need a diesel, nore would I own one at this time. I like the fact I sell parts for them though.
I have some good friends that are techs at Dodge & GM stores, all of them will tell me being a diesel tech makes a young man old quick,
all tell me if people would just leave the SOB alone they would have better luck. All will tell me I wish one of these car company's would
build a truck with a one piece fender & hood removal with just two pins. And all will tell me they seen some good & some real bad ones.

Presently I drive nothing but FORDS. Never had one leave me stranded along the side of the road. Can't say that about GM or Chrysler.

Good post.

You can get good and bad ones with all of them. Chevrolet has worked well for me and I have a big inventory of spare parts. I fall into that category that simply doesn't need and can not justify the cost of diesel so I drive a 35 year old pickup. At 3-4 thousand miles a year there's no way it pencils out. Every time that pickup moves it's either pulling a trailer or hauling something. The car will do for running errands.

Personal luck seems to be a factor too. I know well a few people (such as my brother) who seem to be constantly having issues with vehicles regardless of what brand or how old or new it is.

I have 3 customers who have school bus business. One went with all 6.0 E350/450 diesels for his mini bus's. I think he had 9/10 of them. Only one
worked well, meantime his cousin had 3 Fords 3 Chevy's & Couple Dodges all gas. One went with a mixture of both & brands The Ford units seemed to be
available so they buy what & when they could. Countless dollars less in expence for keep the gas mini bus's on the highway. Now almost all are gas
models. No one can keep exhaust manifolds on any of them here in Pa. That's the biggest issue with them. The one old Mini bus that was a diesel is
still being used as a spare. The INT 6.0 in the bigger bus's have performed real well, 75% of the issues with any on the new diesels is the emissions.
One advantage the 6.7 Diesel has the is EGR system.

Right right right, I understand the confusion.

I didn't mean that it would be broken down, and "in the shop".

I meant that he would love it MORE than the Ford, and it would soon be the truck of choice to be in the shop...

That is a nice looking truck. I know a few guys that swear by them, they are also nnalert :lol: I like the way a Chevy drives and they usually have a good seat, that's nice while your sitting on the side of the road waiting for the wrecker Personally I can't get near the service out of a Chevy as I can a Ford or even a Dodge and I've had them all.
All kidding aside I imagine it will do OK.

I had a Chevy pickup once. At about 22000 miles the mechanical fuel pump went out and left me stranded. It was before cell phones, so I walked 7 miles on a hot day with a slight hangover before I got a ride. After that episode you had to have a new fuel pump and tools with you at all times. It was the last Chevy for me.
DWF

That's to bad for you, 2000000 on my 2000 7.3 only needed alternator and water pump. Those front ends on Chevys are also cheap. Good luck

My buddy has a 2007 King Ranch 350 with the 6.0 He has the no start when hot issue. He tore it down and found the dummy plug o rings are shot.. He only has 55,000 miles on the truck. I have to say he is not a happy camper.