Scope for 4H shooting sports

dhermesc · Jun 22, 2015

I am looking for a fixed (or adjustable) 6X scope for my son to use in 4H shooting sports with a .22 rifle. I know the correct answer is probably a Leupold M8 or FX-II but I just can't bring myself to shell out the cash. Any other suggestions?

Janicholson · Jun 22, 2015

Ebay has hundreds in the 20 to 100 dollar category. Many brand names. Be sure it comes with mounts. Jim

lpaz · Jun 22, 2015

I would check with your local 4-H prior to purchasing one. I don't believe the 4-H here allows scopes and they have to use open sites only, but it may be different in your area?

dhermesc · Jun 22, 2015

I have a decent enough 4X hunting scope on it now - a cheap BSA - but the cross hairs are so thick they literally block out the bull's eye when its centered. The retical needs to be a duplex to get around this and the club allows for a 6X scope. The rifle its self is a Marlin XT with a laminated stock and the profire trigger - not a target rifle but as good as it gets until he shows me he can out shoot the gun.

Farmall43 · Jun 22, 2015

I have been happy with Nikon prostaff series in the past. I have used them for many years on my muzzle loader. I also have a little 1.5 to 4.5 adjustable on my .22.

D beatty · Jun 22, 2015

I would think if they are competing I would want a decent scope. Take a look at Burris I have them on several rifles and find them to be a good scope. The Burris is a step down from the Leupold. If your looking for a good used fixed scope look at a Weaver scope there are a number of them on Ebay.

Sprint 6 · Jun 22, 2015

Same here. I help with the local 4H shooting sports club, we allow open or peep sights only, no scope in .22 class. Advanced class can use scopes on .17HMR, .308, and AR.

dhermesc · Jun 22, 2015

Up to 6X scope in the .22 class.

We have gone through a couple practices and my son shot well with the 4X scope but can't keep all the rounds on the red. I doubted his claims that he couldn't see the bulls eye when he was all lined up until I took a turn - at the ranges they shoot the crosshairs competely cover the bull and his spread is all over that 1" or so of target. I've shot the little XT for years with that 4X scope and thought it would be just fine since it held "0" so well, but I guess thats the difference between plinking and competitive target shooting.

In order to shoot target the scope needs to be 6X and duplex crosshair (or some other "fine" line). Even with what he has he's shooting well in advance of the rest of his class so I guess my part is to make sure he can compete. The instructor has a CZ 455 and a Leupold scope that my son shot a round just to show me it was his equipment and not his ability that was holding him back. I'll start with the scope and we'll see where we go from there.

NCWayne · Jun 22, 2015

Give Primary Arms a look. They have their own brand of scopes, etc, as well as other 'name' brands for sale.

We had a get together at a range a few weeks back, and one of the guys there does the Mr Guns and Gear channel on Youtube. He had reviewed one of their 2.5 power scopes, designed for the AR, and basically gave them away as door prizes.

I believe he gave it a pretty good review, and it looks like it's going to be a nice scope to me. If the rest of their products are of similar construction, you'll get a really good product at an affordable price with one of their scopes.
Primary Arms

D beatty · Jun 22, 2015

If you ever deside to get him a differant rifle take a look at a Ruger 77/22 or find a good used Kimber model 82 both are good rifles.

BushogPapa · Jun 22, 2015

For myself, on my Mossburg .22, I am very happy with my Weaver 40MM 3x9 scope...

Now, for anything with more recoil, a Leupold is very, very Special..Worth more than the rifle when it comes to hitting the target..

Ron.

Rich_WI · Jun 22, 2015

(quoted from post at 15:03:38 06/22/15) I am looking for a fixed (or adjustable) 6X scope for my son to use in 4H shooting sports with a .22 rifle. I know the correct answer is probably a Leupold M8 or FX-II but I just can't bring myself to shell out the cash. Any other suggestions?

Teach him to aim to the side so the huge crosshairs dont cover the bull, the edge of the crosshairs just kiss up to the bull. He could even sight at the edge of the paper target as long as there is only one bull per page. You didnt mention what target is being used but sight in so the target works for him, not against him. Use the contrast colors to to your advantage.

Its about the shooter, not the gun. Leupolds are nice, I own one but the cheaper scopes are a real bargin now days and very, very competive on a shoestring budget. The gap between great glass and cheap glass has gotten very narrow in the past few years and most people dont know that because they already have the Leupold tattoo on their but... and they are living in the past. How can they say the cheap glass is bad if they wont buy one and use it?

If he adjusts his aim point, he will be back to, well almost to shooting with the CZ. The Marlins shoot pretty well, they usually got great barrels but they tend to be shy of a CZ. But no need for a new gun yet OR a new scope, just a change in the point of aim.

dhermesc · Jun 23, 2015

Thats a pretty good website - thanks for the information.

Mike M · Jun 23, 2015

While I am a big Ruger fan I have many other rifles that are MORE accurate !

GeneMO · Jun 23, 2015

Nikon is a good buy. I also like Redfield, but you dont see em much anymore.

I read an article in an outdoor magazine a number of years ago, about how modern manufacturing methods, more accurate machining and materials had made low dollar scopes almost as good as the high dollar ones of earlier years.

Now I have never owned a real high dollar scope, so maybe I am missing something.

I am also not a benchrest shooter, or a Great White hunter, so what do I know. But I still bring home the wild game when I go out.

Gene

D beatty · Jun 23, 2015

I must have got a good Ruger 77/22 because it will shoot right in with rifles like the Kimbers of Oregon .

D beatty · Jun 23, 2015

Redfield closed its doors in 1998 but in 2008 Leupold & Stevens bought the name and started making Redfield scopes in their plant in Beaverton, Oregon.

GordoSD · Jun 23, 2015

As said, have the boy rezero so that the bottom of bullseye is tangent to the horizontal crosshair.

MarkB_MI · Jun 23, 2015

Whatever happened to iron sights?

GVSII · Jun 23, 2015

(quoted from post at 08:44:40 06/23/15) As said, have the boy rezero so that the bottom of bullseye is tangent to the horizontal crosshair.

At the range and on a paper target,thats what the sight picture is supposed to look like.In a hunting situation the cross hair or front sight(iron sights) should be where you want to hit provided range is considered.

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