IH 5100 soybean special - special problems?

I recently bought a nice used 5100 soybean special. It's an 18x7 so it is narrow enough to get across bridges around here. I'm glad I went with a narrow drill after seeing some prices for parts.

The drill I bought has fertilizer. It looked to be in very good shape, but, I never thought to grab the shaft and see if it turned free before I bought it. So, after removing the trap doors on the bottom, I find that I need a lot of parts replaced. The total so far to do half of the planter is $1440.17 plus a can of PB Blaster and a bottle of Tylenol. My question is:

Now that I have the bottom door off, what is the easiest way to put it back on? It looks like it will take 3 people to get the hinges bolted back on while holding that heavy thing up in the air.


Has anyone ever tried to run fertilizer along with their soybeans? It looks like it dumps the fertilizer directly on the beans, which I would assume would burn them pretty badly. I have not seen how it operates to know for sure exactly how it will place fertilizer. I'd like to band MESZ in my bean rows,rather than broadcasting it. I have some fields with 3-5 ppm phosphorus in a 6 inch soil test.


Anything I should be aware of when setting the drill up for soybeans? It came with 7 tooth sprockets mounted and set-up for oats. I also got 2 14 tooth sprockets and 2 16 tooth sprockets in a bucket of parts. I need to swap the 7 for the 14 tooth for soybeans? I read in the manual it says something about moving the metering wheels over, but, without looking at it, I don't understand what they mean.


Aside from a few basic parts available from shoup, most parts for these things are terribly expensive. $33 per tube for the fertilizer tubes! Multiplying everything by 18 when ordering really is a shock. Is there an aftermarket out there who might have parts not available through shoup?


Anyone have any experience with this drill in beans? Thanks in advance

I have no experience.

Everything I read has always said to be real careful with fert directly on bean seed, it is very sensitive.

I'd be careful.

Paul

Try Burrell Impement in Fairview Ok. They might have some new and used parts for your drill.
580-227-4494 is the number.

Try Burrell Implement in Fairview Ok. They might have some new and used parts for your drill.
580-227-4494 is the number.

Paul,
That is what I have heard also. I am pretty savvy to equipment. I just think I took a big leap without looking.

Beans are more sensitive than a second wife dealing with 5 kids from a previous marriage. I think you are right.

Thanks for the info.

John

RedIron,
I will check them out. Thanks for the number. I just hope I made a good decision going with this drill. I probably am going to regret it, but I will call to see what they got.

Thanks for the recommendation. I appreciate it.

John

Paul You can get a liquid kit to put on fet with your drill. It will put it in the same trough as the seed. You can also get a no or low salt liquid fert for this purpose. It does cost more than regular liquid fert. This is what my fert rep told me this past winter.
As for the bottom being froze up pour some waste engine oil with some diesel fuel in it and let it set a while. Can you get a block to shove in under the box bottom over the frame?

I rented one 21, or 22 years ago & was pretty happy with it. BUT... Just liked being able cultivate a little better. By the way don't forget the Pepto Bismol between the Tylenol! If drilling beans I really prefer 15 - 20" rows if not planning to cultivate. You get good ground coverage, the equipment is less expensive to maintain (1/2 the rows or less of a 7" drill). A 4 row 30" planter with 3 splitter rows will be about 9 feet with only 7 rows of parts. Although the planters themselves are still quite expensive.

What kind of dirt and moisture do you have?

People get away with a lot in heavy, clay, wet soils that you can't do in sandy dry soils, so be careful on Internet recommendations from all over
- take with a grain of urea!

I did an Internet search and came up with some impressive stand reductions and yield reductions using liquid or granular in furrow on beans;
but that was from 1967, so likely wide rows and nothing low salt.

I don't know if you can find a low salt granular?

Paul

http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=357453&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1

How much are you planning to put on, anyhow?

Paul
Granular soy