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Geo-TH,In

Geo-TH,In

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Left key in ign and truck battery is dead AGAIN. It takes 5 hours to bring battery back to 100%. I always park inside pole barn, so leaving key in turck is common. Should pull it out or it will drain battery.
 
Easy to remove the keys and put them in you pocket if you are the only one driving the vehicle. Requires multiple keys if there are others driving the vehicle.

We never pulled keys at home, but I got in the habit quick after I left home. Wife has her own set of keys.
 
How long to drain down ?
Leaving the key in should not drain it as long as it was not left on or in accessory.
Now if it has sat for a month that is "normal" to be dead on todays electronic nightmares.
 
I did the same thing a few months ago in the new pickup. I left it in the accessory position. Now I tug on the key to make sure it will slide a little - it has to be off to do it.

I would be driven crazy if I took the keys out of anything. I would either have to have a jailer ring of keys or run to the house constantly. When you have to move three things to get to the implement that you suddenly need, not having keys makes me more mad than anything.
 
Left the 2way radio on in my car last week. Killed the battery. Recharged battery Ok, but electric fuel pump failed. Cost me $275. And a lot of greif over 3 days crawling under, pulling tank, putting new pump and putting tank back. Nothing went easy. Why pump failed with dead battery, I don't know.
 
Trying to operate with low voltage? Most vehicles have battery rundown protection would think it would prevent this. When we are gone in the winter I disconnect one cable on our truck, sits 3 months with no problem.
 
When I shut my Tahoe down, I open the door with the key in, and ease it out until the warning goes off. Key in ignition but out of connection.
 
Don't ask me, but it does, engine stops but something drains battery on my GMC truck. Perhaps it still in acc position or something. This isn't the first time battery is completely drained.
 
notjustair,
I too leave the keys in everything. My wife takes the keys out of the cars when she drives them, she then proceeds to leave the keys in random places of which only she knows. She's been known to move her car, put the keys in her purse and then take my daily driver shopping (with both sets of keys for both vehicles), this only happens when I need to go somewhere.

Nate
 
I have a Case skip loader tractor that does the exact same thing, leave the key in the ignition in off position, no lights on the dash shining and it will still run the battery down in a days time, a big battery, pull the key and it will bust off 6 months later. The ignition functions properly in every other way, crank it, kill it and accessories. The key was on a small chain attached to the console when I bought it so I guess the previous owner had the same problem.
 
Was the key in the off position? If it was, I would look for something else that could be causing the battery to drain. A leaking diode in the alternator, a glove box light that stays on or too much dust around the starter brushes can allow a small but continuous battery drain.
 
Sort of depends on age of vehicle instead of your age. Newer vehicle systems with computer controls and 'security' systems read a chip or code marker from the key or ignition cylinder in 'active/key in the cylinder' and 'ping' the ignition at various intervals- 2 to 10 seconds depending on system programing- and the computers often do security status checks by 'pinging' door sensors, brake and seat belts, window sensors as 'active' instead of 'standby' If your truck is 10 years younger than you, likely no problem with the points ignition and roll up windows by hand. If the truck is not of legal drinking age for a human-then key in ignition cylinder has computer and security system doing lots of 'get ready to start the engine and reduce security' checks and drawing power almost as much as the 'on' position of start the fuel pump and check the seat belts and engine temperature, dash lights- but turn off the security system. Pull key out and the little red security light flashes maybe 20 seconds to a minute doing a check of sensors table looking for a 'ping' from the sensor. Leave it in ignition even in 'off' and the security system, engine monitors do a 'ping' of sensors instead of just the status table chip and this requires a pulse from all the sensors, not just a 'grounded/closed' pulse from the door sensor that got opened manually. Early 2000 or so some security system got the separated battery in the computer good for a month, vehicle battery is not connected UNLESS key is in ignition cylinder, the main battery power is available for security system to draw on. Check your electric bill for leaving on a PC all night compared to actual unplugging it in a office with say 5 of them or a home with teenagers on Facebook with their own systems- then imagine the power is off from the electric company generator and you're using a battery pack with limited capacity. Industrial equipment with computer controlled ignition and emissions controls, fuel injectors can have some of same electric draw issues with key in ignition cylinder even if key isn't 'chipped' RN.
 
(quoted from post at 09:59:40 05/06/15) Sort of depends on age of vehicle instead of your age. Newer vehicle systems with computer controls and 'security' systems read a chip or code marker from the key or ignition cylinder in 'active/key in the cylinder' and 'ping' the ignition at various intervals- 2 to 10 seconds depending on system programing- and the computers often do security status checks by 'pinging' door sensors, brake and seat belts, window sensors as 'active' instead of 'standby' If your truck is 10 years younger than you, likely no problem with the points ignition and roll up windows by hand. If the truck is not of legal drinking age for a human-then key in ignition cylinder has computer and security system doing lots of 'get ready to start the engine and reduce security' checks and drawing power almost as much as the 'on' position of start the fuel pump and check the seat belts and engine temperature, dash lights- but turn off the security system. Pull key out and the little red security light flashes maybe 20 seconds to a minute doing a check of sensors table looking for a 'ping' from the sensor. Leave it in ignition even in 'off' and the security system, engine monitors do a 'ping' of sensors instead of just the status table chip and this requires a pulse from all the sensors, not just a 'grounded/closed' pulse from the door sensor that got opened manually. Early 2000 or so some security system got the separated battery in the computer good for a month, vehicle battery is not connected UNLESS key is in ignition cylinder, the main battery power is available for security system to draw on. Check your electric bill for leaving on a PC all night compared to actual unplugging it in a office with say 5 of them or a home with teenagers on Facebook with their own systems- then imagine the power is off from the electric company generator and you're using a battery pack with limited capacity. Industrial equipment with computer controlled ignition and emissions controls, fuel injectors can have some of same electric draw issues with key in ignition cylinder even if key isn't 'chipped' RN.
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reading this gave me a headache
 
Truck is a 2007 GMC full size work truck. Took until noon to bring the battery back at 15 amps. Battery was completely dead. Even had to jump it with another battery to get smart charger to work. I need to remember to pull the key.
 
My new Lincoln MKZ will discharge the battery if the key is left in the ignition over night, Way it is made! My 2000 Lincoln LS did the same thing and I traded it
 
the senior moment is on the stupid modern bulchit engineers that built bthe dam thang ,,, and perhaps you for unknowingly buying it , lol,, my keys are left in the ignition here ingods country ...
 
(quoted from post at 11:09:01 05/06/15)
(quoted from post at 09:59:40 05/06/15) Sort of depends on age of vehicle instead of your age. Newer vehicle systems with computer controls and 'security' systems read a chip or code marker from the key or ignition cylinder in 'active/key in the cylinder' and 'ping' the ignition at various intervals- 2 to 10 seconds depending on system programing- and the computers often do security status checks by 'pinging' door sensors, brake and seat belts, window sensors as 'active' instead of 'standby' If your truck is 10 years younger than you, likely no problem with the points ignition and roll up windows by hand. If the truck is not of legal drinking age for a human-then key in ignition cylinder has computer and security system doing lots of 'get ready to start the engine and reduce security' checks and drawing power almost as much as the 'on' position of start the fuel pump and check the seat belts and engine temperature, dash lights- but turn off the security system. Pull key out and the little red security light flashes maybe 20 seconds to a minute doing a check of sensors table looking for a 'ping' from the sensor. Leave it in ignition even in 'off' and the security system, engine monitors do a 'ping' of sensors instead of just the status table chip and this requires a pulse from all the sensors, not just a 'grounded/closed' pulse from the door sensor that got opened manually. Early 2000 or so some security system got the separated battery in the computer good for a month, vehicle battery is not connected UNLESS key is in ignition cylinder, the main battery power is available for security system to draw on. Check your electric bill for leaving on a PC all night compared to actual unplugging it in a office with say 5 of them or a home with teenagers on Facebook with their own systems- then imagine the power is off from the electric company generator and you're using a battery pack with limited capacity. Industrial equipment with computer controlled ignition and emissions controls, fuel injectors can have some of same electric draw issues with key in ignition cylinder even if key isn't 'chipped' RN.
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[b:94d6803e7d]reading this gave me a headache[/b:94d6803e7d]
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Me too! That's why I'm trying to keep my older stuff ('69, '78, ' 84, '97 and '02), running and looking good. 8)
 
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