1963 Ford 2000 - 6 Volt positive ground

WayneG

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I recently came across a wiring diag for a 63 Ford 2000 while troubleshooting. The diagram shows a positive ground. My tractor has a neg ground. Wondering if this is an issue. The tractor starts and runs good. What are the adverse issues with it reversed. Could this cause the battery to not charge providing the generator and regulator are good.

Would I hurt anything if I set it up with positive ground to see if it would work.
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Thanks in advance for input
 
The generator would need to be polarized after reversing the battery. With all connections correctly
assembled, with the key off and before starting the engine, remove the field wire at the regulator and
momentarily touch it to the battery wire connection on the regulator. You should see a small spark.
Reconnect the field wire to the regulator.

If this is a gas engine, look at the wiring to the ignition coil. For a positive ground system the +
terminal will connect to the distributor, the - terminal will connect to the ignition switch.

Once it's running, check across the battery with a volt meter. With the engine above 1200 RPM or so, the
voltage should be around 8 volts.

If there is an ampmeter, it should be showing in the middle with the ignition off, the positive direction
with the engine running and revved up, and the negative direction with the engine off and the ignition or
lights on. If it reads backward, reverse the wires on the back terminals. If it's a "loop" type meter with
just a wire passing through a loop, reverse the direction the wire passes through.
 
Is it 6 volt or 12 volt? Generator or alternator?

Positive and negative ground is like right hand and left hand threads on a bolt. With bolts, the nut screws on in opposite directions, with positive and negative ground current flows through the system in opposite directions. With the bolt in many cases either direction will work, but there are cases where it must be one or the other.

A properly configured tractor electric system can be made to work either polarity. However, alternators, unless specially modified, must be negative ground. A generator regulator may be for positive ground only, negative ground only, or either ground configuration.

Proper connection of the battery, charging system, ignition coil, ammeter, and possibly fuel gauges are the only concern. Switches, points/condenser, starter, lights will work either polarity. (Later add ons such as radio or other attachments may specify a particular ground.)

“Would I hurt anything if I set it up with positive ground to see if it would work.” If you just reversed battery connections you would damage an alternator, or possibly the generator regulator

Your tractor has apparently been working and is still working OK. I say leave it alone, there is no problem with having it negative ground. In fact, negative ground has a big advantage in that it creates less confusion when jump starting with a modern 12 volt negative ground vehicle. If it fails to charge, ground polarity is not the problem.
 
This is correct for a Type A charging system used up through 8N

Steve is correct for Type B system used 1953 and later models
 
(quoted from post at 10:56:59 05/05/15) Is it 6 volt or 12 volt? Generator or alternator?

Positive and negative ground is like right hand and left hand threads on a bolt. With bolts, the nut screws on in opposite directions, with positive and negative ground current flows through the system in opposite directions. With the bolt in many cases either direction will work, but there are cases where it must be one or the other.

A properly configured tractor electric system can be made to work either polarity. However, alternators, unless specially modified, must be negative ground. A generator regulator may be for positive ground only, negative ground only, or either ground configuration.

Proper connection of the battery, charging system, ignition coil, ammeter, and possibly fuel gauges are the only concern. Switches, points/condenser, starter, lights will work either polarity. (Later add ons such as radio or other attachments may specify a particular ground.)

“Would I hurt anything if I set it up with positive ground to see if it would work.” If you just reversed battery connections you would damage an alternator, or possibly the generator regulator

Your tractor has apparently been working and is still working OK. I say leave it alone, there is no problem with having it negative ground. In fact, negative ground has a big advantage in that it creates less confusion when jump starting with a modern 12 volt negative ground vehicle. If it fails to charge, ground polarity is not the problem.
ou have received mostly good advice, Wayne. If it ain't broke, don't 'fix' it!....unless you are just dieing to waste time & money repairing what you may break.
 
Pete, you're right, that will work. I found this method in a Ford service manual. I think what this does is removes the field side of the regulator from the circuit to prevent any chance of damaging the regulator.
I am by no means an expert on generators, they were just before my time! LOL In fact I totally dislike them, other than for the sake of originality or keeping a tach drive, I prefer to retrofit them to alternators.
 
Hey WayneG, I have a '63 2000 tractor that is 12v and it has a Neg. ground for the battery. My shop manual shows a wiring diagram for a 6v battery with a Pos. ground. Do Not try changing the polarity of the system! As long as your machine is running and charging enjoy it!
 
Agree, If it aint broke, don't fix it. There is no functional reason to convert back to pos ground, all you will do is make it a dangerous to charge and jump start odd ball in a 99.9% neg ground world.
 

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