farming renting ground and the land owner

Brian806 · Apr 21, 2015

Well I'm kinda annoyed I probly should leave it go in for one ear and out the other! But my one landlord that I started farming his 30 acres 4 years ago! When I went in thier it was nothing but golden rod and small trees starting to grow just crap! I laid it all out in strips cause it's all sloped so it's all contoured got the weeds all under control with a good spray program! I mow everything once a year that I can't make a field like water ways and grass strips! I feel I really improved his piece of property alot! Now somebody has him convinced my bigger tractors are way to heavy and it's compacting his soil and ruining his land! So now he thinks i need to run smaller tractors and use older equipment cause he now thinks he wants it done the old fashion way! So he tells me! Well jeez the newest thing I have is a 77 986 now except my pickup and gravity wagons! I just love how some people suck up on something and run with something somebody else has told them! And the person that told them this info may not have much of a clue what thier talking about! O well I'm done venting!

Bob Bancroft · Apr 21, 2015

If there was some truth to all that it would be one thing, but it's nonsense. My MFWD, and/or dualed up tractors don't pack the ground anything like when it was a 45 HP tractor with 28" tires chewing and pawing it's way around spring plowed ground.

When I went to six row planting from four, I put 30" spaced duals on that tractor. Between the tractor, and four tires on the planter instead of two, I don't leave near the track that I used to.

NY 986 · Apr 21, 2015

The worst part is that even if you had a qualified agronomist come out and talk to him that he would still take his drinking buddy's (or whatever) word over the expert. Of course nobody ever said that landlords (or tenants) had to be geniuses. Plenty of people out there sitting on things of value that do not have a working brain. A lesson as long as it was thrown at you which is worth learning. I listen to plenty of stupid people tell me about other people of wealth who must of automatically gained that wealth through intelligent action. I am not saying that is never true but there are more than a few exceptions to that theory.

DR. EVIL · Apr 21, 2015

Make sure you run duals on your 986 or other tractors you farm his 30 acres with. Hopefully he doesn't mention soil compaction again, but if he does, plan on not farming the ground next year.

Brown Swiss · Apr 21, 2015

Hand him a scythe and tell him to go mow it, smile and say not much compaction with your fat rear end doing it!

Tim(nj) · Apr 21, 2015

I had an elderly landlady like that. She and her husband milked cows on the property for years and farmed the same way the whole time, with whatever beat-out junk he brought home from the auctions. Well, they sold the cows when he got sick and then he passed away after 10 years of ill health. She has had a parade of renters on the place in the last 20 years. Could never make up her mind. No-till was no good, gotta plow. Then complain about soil erosion. Go to conservation tillage. Then want organic and no GMO. OK, someone tries to do that. Then complain about what a mess the place looks like and suddenly no-till and chemical-intensive guy gets it. During all this, running older equipment was better, then new paint was better, then back and forth . . . . .

730virgil · Apr 21, 2015

remind him of the mess he had before you started farming it.
or ask him if he would sell it to you.
find out what going price is for farm land like that in area.

showcrop · Apr 21, 2015

You should be able to get tire footprint specs. So divide the tractor weight by footprint to get PSI, and compare for different tractors. You may be able to show him that the big one is lower than some smaller ones.

oldtanker · Apr 22, 2015

Thing to remember is that it is his land. So if you want it to rent you may have to talk to him and as others have said show him what the deal is about what is hurting it and what isn't.

Rick

jimg.allentown · Apr 22, 2015

A few suggestions....
Arm yourself with facts. Do your homework and show how much soil compaction there is with the tractors he suggests that you use versus the ones that you currently use.
Remind him of the difference in the land from when you started to now.
Ask him to back up what he requests/requires with facts and proof of his claims.

It is really easy to sit back in an easy chair and tell somebody else how to do their job. Even easier to tell them how to spend their money. Those folks have apparently not been on the receiving end of their own attitudes and demands.

formenwhogrow · Apr 22, 2015

Sounds like one of your neighbors, maybe even somebody you're friendly with (who knows?), is trying to steal that land from you now that it is improved into productive farmland. It never ceases to amaze me how neighboring farmers will cut each other's throats for a few more acres of ground. Had a neighbor do it to us on a piece of adjoining property we farmed for years, and now he is running it into the ground so by the time he farms himself out of business, the place won't grow anything but golden rod and multi-flora rose. Scumbags.

uncle scat · Apr 22, 2015

That's why I own 90 %of the ground I farm. That way the landlord and tenant have to get along with each other. Haha

casenut1 · Apr 22, 2015

Ask him if he wants payed with old fashioned rental rates also.

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