I guess livestock castration will be next

rrlund · Mar 25, 2015

The fuel man was telling me last fall that one of the local Mennonites got arrested after one of his dogs was hit in the road and somebody saw that it had been banded. Now he's going to jail for 15 days.
It used to be that we never knew where the elastrator was because somebody was always borrowing it to castrate a dog. Times they are a changing.
News story

PJH · Mar 25, 2015

I helped a co-worker band his dog many years ago. When they dropped off, the flesh opened up to a 4 inch diameter circle. My buddy got nervous and called a local small animal clinic, and the guy blew up on him, threatening to report him for cruelty and several other scary things. He hung up and called an old country vet who assured him that he'd seen it often and he could fix him. My neighbor had a similar story. Needless to say, that was my last dog banding.

rrlund · Mar 25, 2015

From what the fuel man said,somebody stopped and took pictures. The dog warden came out and showed him a picture of the dead dog and asked if it was his. He said it was. Then he showed him a picture of the testicles and asked him if he did that? He said yup,he did. The dog warden told him to turn around and put his hands behind his back. He took him off to jail.
They told him they were taking the rest of his dogs. He told them to take the cows too. If they were taking one of his animals they were taking them all. I guess they backed off on taking the other dogs and he was out on $2000 bond. The thing that gets me,the judge is a country boy who used to milk cows himself. He should know the ways of the world around here.

onefarmer · Mar 25, 2015

Sure it wasn't because the dog had fleas? Just crazy that fleas on a dog was news worthy.

rrlund · Mar 25, 2015

No mention that the whole thing started because of a dog that was hit on M57. But it's the Daily News. Nobody expects perfection.

Dave H (MI) · Mar 25, 2015

Honestly? There are inexpensive options for neutering a male dog. I can't get behind you on this one. You don't have a herd of dogs. Pay for it to be done right.

Having said that, the neighbor at the head of the street has a boy. I find him OR his dad passed out from drink and they may just wake up with a little surprise of that nature. I deem it doing the world a service.

in-too-deep · Mar 25, 2015

Scares the heck out of me. Always worried the wrong person is gonna walk in on dehorning a calf and make a big deal. Too bad honest people have to operate in fear.

Fergienewbee · Mar 25, 2015

I'm with Dave H on this one. Just had our dog done by the vet last week.

Larry

rrlund · Mar 25, 2015

It used to be that a dog was an animal,just like any other farm animal. They had an owner,not "pet parents". In the cold weather over the winter they were making threats that if a dog was seen outside,the person responsible was getting arrested. Well,dogs used to sleep in the barn with the rest of the animals. We've given them too many human characteristics.

sammydwm · Mar 25, 2015

Banding dogs has never been the proper way to castrate them and any idiot who does it should have it done to himself.
There is a world of difference between a calf and a dog.

bison · Mar 25, 2015

There was couple years ago a letter in the mail that was addressed to our dog and that it was time for his next shots.
When i did not respond the vet called me and asked if we had received the letter, i said yes i did..It was addressed to the dog and i am not allowed to read mail not addressed to me so i gave it to the dog.
The dog never said anything to me so i didn't think it was important.
But hang on, the dog is right here, you can talk to him yourself..
Here bax,..phone for for ye...yer vet wants to talk to ye!
:lol:
They never send an other letter

Goose · Mar 25, 2015

My mother-in-law used to do it to tomcats by sticking them headfirst into a boot so they couldn't fight and then us a rubber band.

rrlund · Mar 25, 2015

I guess the whole "dogs are people too" news was kinda slow getting to us out here. To tell the truth,until now,if I'd had a farm yard dog that needed the job done,I wouldn't have given it a second thought. It's just how things have always been done.
The judge should have taken into consideration that the guy was a Mennonite and that he had a herd of cows to milk to boot. The Amish and Mennonite communities around here are pretty well self contained and they take care of themselves. The whole PC thing hasn't infiltrated their communities yet. They continue to do things the way they have for generations without paying attention to special interest trends that get political support. It's a sad day that he was sent back to his community with such a strong message pinned to his back.

Dave H (MI) · Mar 25, 2015

I am going to go out on a limb here. Dogs are animals and have owners. I am not the dogs daddy. Probably why the dogs have such a health respect for me is that I treat them like dogs. The wife and daughters not so much. When they want food or play they mostly go to the girls. When there is trouble you will always find the dogs standing next to me and not them. If they are hurt, they come to me. I call this trust and respect and I have no intention of violating that by hurting one of them in that way.

We have three dogs and two of them are Labradorks that do a pretty decent job of keeping the coyotes off the place. They don't bark all night like the Pyrenees so we get fewer complaints. I think working dogs need to live outdoors. Going in and out of a warm house is too hard on them. Mostly the dogs sleep in the hay, in a shed. There is no warmer, safer, dryer place on the farm for an ACCLIMATED dog than tucked in between bales. He!!, when we had the Pyrenees you could not get the thing to come in the house. For about a week as a puppy he came in the house and slept on the bathroom tile. Then one day he went under the deck and dug himself a nest. Never came back inside again.

rrlund · Mar 25, 2015

Well,you wouldn't have wanted the do gooders that "ain't from around here" to have seen your dogs outside in cold weather or you'd have been sharing a cell with Wilmer.

S2710 · Mar 25, 2015

what I don't understand is we are all told to nuter our pets, so the man does it now he is in jail for it, I just don't understand the mentality of some people.
Bob

JBDyer · Mar 25, 2015

Typical American Mentality, where we treat our dogs like children and our children like dogs!

I am an adoptive father, My wife and I have an adopted son and it burns me up when people talk about "adopting a pet" You do NOT adopt pets, You adopt children!

LAA · Mar 25, 2015

That is a textbook case of government out of control, I hope that judge is voted out next term.

Formerly PaMike · Mar 25, 2015

A local mennonite guy here got charged with animal cruelty and had to pay a fine due to banding his dog. I know the guy well, and hes a good guy. The dog got loose and was out by the road. Someone stoped and saw the band. Instead of taking the dog back down the farm lane to the owner they called the COPS....

W_B · Mar 25, 2015

(quoted from post at 20:39:59 03/25/15) I'm with Dave H on this one. Just had our dog done by the vet last week. Larry

Agree, let your vet do the dogs and cats.

Traditional Farmer · Mar 25, 2015

Well regardless of what one thinks about the issue,folks have to keep in mind it
ain't still 1960.Almost anywhere you'd get the same treatment for banding a dog these days.In my county if you have a dog running loose off your property you get a ticket.Makes sense really I can't turn my cows and goats loose in the road or all over the neighbors farms and houses so why should dogs be able to go everywhere?

W_B · Mar 25, 2015

(quoted from post at 23:17:00 03/25/15) what I don't understand is we are all told to nuter our pets, so the man does it now he is in jail for it, I just don't understand the mentality of some people. Bob

The problem is dogs, like llamas, alpacas and horse don't have dangling testicles like cattle and sheep do. To band closely held ones like a dog IS cruelty. Have it done right and you and the dog (and the law) will be happier. I don't understand the cruel mentality of some people.

37chief · Mar 25, 2015

I read a little on this on the net. It says dogs are built different as they don't hang like a bull. Since the sack is so tight to the body, when the sack does fall off, that is why there is a large hole. I would never do that to my dog. Around here in S. Calif. the local county animal shelter does it for free. Stan

vscummins · Mar 25, 2015

I thought it said branded ! Guess that's what I get fro reading and working at the same time .

Pete in MD · Mar 25, 2015

Saw a bumper sticker the other day that said --- Please spay/neuter your dog or cat and your weird friends and relatives.

Bret4207 · Mar 26, 2015

Around here no one does it for free, no one fixes cats either. So the trash that dumps their cats and dogs off "out in the country" create a burden on those of us who have soft hearted wives and kids that object in the strongest possible terms when Dad gets the gun to get rid of the latest pest. That's why I have 2 very LARGE crates full of flipping KITTENS and CATS and 2 small sheds full of more of the same. It's going to cost us several hundred dollars to have the filthy things fixed so they don't breed more of the same. And for every kitty loving fool out there, NO, there is no FREE spay/neuter system that will take care of 25 cats. Rant off.

The reason they turn in the Mennonites is for the same reason people turn in the Amish for stuff they'd never turn an English guy in for- because the Mennonites and Amish are different. It's a form of racism that no one would be allowed to use on a gay or black or woman. End of story.

showcrop · Mar 26, 2015

I have always said that those elastrators are for yuppies. people who want animals but can't stand a little blood on their hands. They are easy on the owner who gets it out of sight, out of mind quickly. but how about the animal? Did you ever watch how they keep licking them? They are in pain for days! We and our 4H club used an emasculator. Just a quick slit with sharp blade, slip the tubes out and squeeze them. A little disinfectant and done. A side benefit is that the Emasculator sat on top of the refrigerator for showing to daughter's dates before they left.

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