Cold Weather Feeding

would tires chains help with the traction? what are the square patches on the hood and what do the cattle do to stay warm ? We always kept our couple of cows in the barn during the winter in western NY. Bill
 
Great video !! And I sure like that old Massey.
But you could sure lighten your personal load
with a 4wd cab tractor. Too much money you say?
well here is another idea my brother uses , and
it will cost nothing. . Row the bales you are
going to feed during the coldest days, like in
the video.And on a sunny warm day in October or
November ,you take the strings off. They will
freeze and hold their shape , and stay together
long enough to go from storage to the feed rack.
No chopping or frozen hands fighting with string
at -0 temps. Try a few and see how it works,
won't cost you a dime . and it is tax free. Bruce
 
That's what I was doing yesterday with the thermometer saying 5 above and today I have to feed as well but now its reading a balmy 17. I use an open JD 2510 without a loader. Leave a space between the bales and they wont freeze together. I also found out that net wrap works better on frozen bales than string believe it or not. When you cut the net wrap a little of the outer layer of hay peels off but its better than fighting with frozen string. That wind sure is a killer though. I've been trying to save up for a nice cab tractor to feed with but no luck so far.
 
nice video,thanks for taking the time to send that,really enjoyed it,,my dad had a super 90 massey,my brother still has it,it was a tough tractor,,,yours is in great shape
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heres a picture of my brothers,it still runs good!
 
Hi rusty6. Enjoyed your video but almost shivered seeing you on the tractor. I fed cows for about 25 years with a 4020 without a cab. I "cheated" a little as had a heat houser but was still cold. Bought a Belarus in Feb 1999 and went to "heaven". Heated cab and front wheel drive. Been a good tractor. Bob in nc ND
 
Neat video. We had a super 90 for several years and it was a
very dependable tractor. Any chance you could carry them on
the 3pt for more traction and then use the loader at the feeding
site to put them in the ring? We used to carry them on the
back and it would go through a lot of snow that way.
 
I got a heat houser for sale. It would at least keep the wind off you. Its too bad you don't live in Mi. I'd sell it cheap. I used it on my Massey back before I got a tractor with a factory cab.

Your a die-heart. Nice video.
Thanks for posting
 
Great video. Like the Super 90. My nephew has one on propane with full cab. Very good tractor. Belonged to my brother who passed away in 2013. Sadly, now it's for sale. Let me know if any of you are interested and I'll get you the info. on it. Stay warm.
 
My '63 MF 35 has diff lock but of course it doesn't have the power
and weight that your 90 has. I wonder why they would have it as an
option on a smaller tractor and not on a big one.
Zach
 
(quoted from post at 06:14:29 01/09/15) Any chance you could carry them on
the 3pt for more traction and then use the loader at the feeding
site to put them in the ring? .
No 3 point. It was a rare option we never saw in the sixties.
Yes, tire chains would probably help but I don't have them.
Re: the frozen bales,, not normally a problem but those five had sat there for over a year through our torrential downpours of the summer. I don't normally stack them or have them touching. The 847 NH baler does not wrap all that tight and I've had issues with the bales starting to fall apart even with the twine still on sometimes.
Yes, a cab would be great but it won't fit when I use the tractor
to clean out the cattle shelter in the fall. For the few cattle I
raise I can't justify spending the money on a FWA cab tractor plus a skid steer to clean the shelter.
 
Always enjoy the videos. I just subscribed to your channel. Where is the land of living skies are you? My in laws are in Saskatoon, so I do go out ever now and then. I am from near Ottawa. Just plugged in the 540 Cockshutt to move a little snow later. Up to -9 C today!!
How are your 40 and 50 running this past year?
Neil
 
(quoted from post at 08:41:42 01/09/15) Always enjoy the videos. I just subscribed to your channel. Where is the land of living skies are you? My in laws are in Saskatoon, so I do go out ever now and then. I am from near Ottawa. Just plugged in the 540 Cockshutt to move a little snow later. Up to -9 C today!!
How are your 40 and 50 running this past year?
Neil
Near Lipton. The 40 and 50 are still in the stable. I only use the 50 on the hammer mill to grind some oats for the cattle once in a while . It has developed a real thirst for oil. The 40 is hitched to the snowblower ready to go but I have not used it yet this winter, which is almost a record I'd say.
 
(quoted from post at 11:13:13 01/09/15) Do you grind any hay?
Used to grind a lot of hay and straw but finally figured it was cheaper to let the cattle grind it themselves. I just do oats through the hammer mill a few times a year.
 
I wonder if it is cheaper. 30% of round bales is wasted, vs 2% ground hay fed in bunkers. Cow "select" the best,. leave the rest. You can't mix in earlage or silage. Weight gains are 25 t0 30% better on ground feed.
The guys around here that feed mixed ground feed all have lots of new modern cabed equipment, to beat the income taxes. Concrete bunks and waterers.ect. Those feeding just round baled grass and alfalfa have 50 year old open tractors.
 
(quoted from post at 11:52:21 01/09/15) I wonder if it is cheaper. 30% of round bales is wasted, vs 2% ground hay fed in bunkers. Cow "select" the best,. leave the rest. You can't mix in earlage or silage. Weight gains are 25 t0 30% better on ground feed.
The guys around here that feed mixed ground feed all have lots of new modern cabed equipment, to beat the income taxes. Concrete bunks and waterers.ect. Those feeding just round baled grass and alfalfa have 50 year old open tractors.

It's all about net not gross. Wonder who's bank balance (may) be higher. Probably take a lot of extra beef to pay for a new TMR and Cab tractor....

I guess it depends on the operation.
 
(quoted from post at 23:56:58 01/08/15)
(quoted from post at 23:32:59 01/08/15) No diff lock I take it?
Not an option in 1964 as far as I know. I wish it was.

Do you use the wheel brakes to stop the spinning wheel any? I've walked non diff lock tractors through snowy and muddy places by "brake pedal ballet", but I guess you need to be on a tractor you can see the rears to do this effectively.
 
(quoted from post at 13:46:35 01/09/15) 30% is bull sh*t maybe if you feed em without a hay ring and put out 6 months of hay at a time .

Agreed, no hay ring = big time waste.

Hay ring and decent hay, I've seen the only hay left being a 8" diameter pile 3" deep in the center of the ring that the cattle couldn't reach... Same bale and no ring, you'd see 30% or more, especially on muddy ground.
 
(quoted from post at 13:26:53 01/09/15)
(quoted from post at 11:52:21 01/09/15) I wonder if it is cheaper.

It's all about net not gross. Wonder who's bank balance (may) be higher. Probably take a lot of extra beef to pay for a new TMR and Cab tractor....

I guess it depends on the operation.

Very little waste if you notice the ground around my cattle feeder. Some years with oat hay especially they waste some but this grass hay they don't waste much.
Yes, in all honesty I could buy that new(er) cab tractor with mfd if I felt like spending the money. If the right deal came along I might, maybe...
495man, not only does my old Massey have no diff lock, it has practically no brakes. Got to fix that one of these days too.
 


I agree with Double R. No more than what a heat houser costs, I'd have one. I have one on my Cockshutt 540, and cover the radiator 2/3rd s the way, and can plow snow with a light jacket on, unless your doing a lot of backing up.
 
The young guys try yo keep the net at zero. Their bank balance is $500,000.00 worth of machinery and 2 million in land. Their annual IRS bill is zero. Their crop insurance checks run way past 6 figures.
 
(quoted from post at 17:15:10 01/09/15)
495man, not only does my old Massey have no diff lock, it has practically no brakes. Got to fix that one of these days too.

Looks like a straight tractor. Fix the brakes up and it would likely go right through those drifts with both wheels turning.

What kind of loader is that? I am guessing it was added to the tractor in later years? I would think the tractor would have been the big tillage machine when new.
 
(quoted from post at 03:19:43 01/10/15)
(quoted from post at 17:15:10 01/09/15)
495man, not only does my old Massey have no diff lock, it has practically no brakes. Got to fix that one of these days too.

Looks like a straight tractor. Fix the brakes up and it would likely go right through those drifts with both wheels turning.

What kind of loader is that? I am guessing it was added to the tractor in later years? I would think the tractor would have been the big tillage machine when new.
At around 65 hp this Super 90 would have been right in the average size farmer's range for the main field tractor in 1964 when it was new. It has had several owners before it came to this farm. The loader is a Cancade, a popular light duty loader years ago, probably an obsolete Canadian manufacturer by now. I'd like to fix the brakes but its a big disassembly and I hate to have the tractor out of service for the days (weeks/months) it might take me to finish the job.
 

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