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Spudm · Dec 3, 2014

Since the TransCanada pipeline explosion back in September on the farm, I was invited by the project Construction Manager yesterday, to come take a tour today of the work site, which I did. I was escorted to location incident field office, had to sign in and "suit up" complete with hard hat, safety glasses and boots. I got to meet Land Management Reps, Regulatory Compliance Specialists, Environmental Specialists, not too mention Construction Manager, Heavy Equipment Operators, and Pipe Liners, as construction was halted while I was inside the fenced in area. A once in a lifetime experience for sure to see first hand a project like this and have questions explained & answered by qualified people. I must say it was eye-opening and I have a much better understanding of what is being done.
Like it or not, as technology advances, I believe we will see more pipelines being built in this country to meet consumer supply & demand, as we break our dependence on foreign oil.

David G · Dec 3, 2014

We have added about 24,000 HP of compression this month in Nebraska. I am going next week to add a couple of wells to a storage facility. That is a place you do it by that book.

GeneMO · Dec 3, 2014

If they didn't destroy buildings, or go through my front yard, I dont think I would object to a pipeline going through. At least if they respected the land, and put it back in good condition.

Better than a power line.

Gene

Spudm · Dec 3, 2014

TransCanada has been exceptional in what they have done so far. There is no doubt in my mind that things are being done right, and my property will be in better shape when they are done than what it was prior to this incident.
However I must say after witnessing first hand a natural gas pipeline explosion, I would not want to be any closer than 500' from those transmission lines. The power of pipelines are awesome!

RandyB(MI) · Dec 3, 2014

The "liberals" doing all the complaining are the same ones that are blind to the millions spent on highway repairs , landfills full of truck tires and to say nothing about the thousands of tons of salt/chemicals on them highways to get only a fraction of the volume moved compared to pipelines.

John T · Dec 3, 2014

Like so many technical and engineering decisions, there are TRADE OFFS involved. Liquid can be transported by say rail cars which can involve risks and hazards and certain environmental impact and x dollars, OR it can be transported by pipeline with its risks and hazards and cost and impact or even by truck (I doubt, too many gallons). I dont have the specs or statistics or data or safety and risk and cost factors to make an informed decision which may be best. I'm sure there are opinions one way or the other (everyone has an opinion on such topics, even if they are totally ignorant as mine would be not having any technical information) but Id guess its a very complex and very technical engineering question to figure out which transport method is best and safest and most economical.

Best wishes

John T

Spudm · Dec 3, 2014

Pipelines really are the safest mode of transportation, especially with today's technology.
I cannot complain too much as I come inside from the cold, turn up the heat, cook supper, and take a hot shower.

jimg.allentown · Dec 4, 2014

I see that the liberals have fooled you. Their REAL agenda is to prevent the movement of those products in ANY form. First, they attack the biggest target. After that, the smaller ones come into their sights.
As a good example, look at prohibition. Outlawing alcohol eventually ended up as a complete failure. People became lawbreakers, and the law eventually collapsed under its own weight. So, they started with the smaller challenges. Little prohibitions here and there. They are trying to outlaw tobacco in the same way.
With a pipeline, once it is in place, there is simply no further way to fight it. So, first they try to stop the pipeline. Then comes the rail cars, and eventually the tanker trucks.

Nebraska Cowman · Dec 4, 2014

Amen to that. I liked it better when everybody smoked. Now if you are stressed you take a gun and shoot someone. I say "go have a cigarette and chill out"

Brown Swiss · Dec 4, 2014

As a good example, look at prohibition. Outlawing alcohol eventually ended up as a complete failure..

The battle between Rockefeller and Ford on alcohol, looks like Rockefeller won! Complete failure to who?

Traditional Farmer · Dec 4, 2014

I have a 4 pipe natural gas pipe line running thru on of my places not a big hassle most of the time but it really lowers the property value permanently
and there are many things that can't be done on and around the pipe line.Landowners don't get nearly enough compensation for the long term cost and hassle of the line to them

cannonball · Dec 4, 2014

The main problem I have with the TransCanada pipeline..why does another country have the right to use Emit Domain on American soil...Sell at border and let the companies get it where it needs to go..

John T · Dec 4, 2014

Whats so funny is how the same libs who absolutely want to ban smoking "cigarettes" are the same ones that want to allow smoking "weed" You cant smoke tobacco, only dope lol lol you cant make this stuff up

John T

mkirsch · Dec 4, 2014

Why? Because a lot of very important people stand to make a lot of money by allowing it to happen.

If you were a real American you would stand up and applaud these people for working hard to become successful and rich.

Ron in NS · Dec 4, 2014

Liberals would like nothing better than to be ruled over by Communists, living in unheated houses, wearing all the same color coveralls all the time, riding to work in horse drawn carts, working 16 hour days, 6 days a week, sharing our homes with 20 people and sleeping in hallways, and lining up for black bread once a week down at the corner where the truck stops.

And the Liberals would be the Party Commissars.

Remember Dr Zhivago? THAT is a abundant Paradise.

Hay hay hay · Dec 4, 2014

Joe McCarthy is alive.

The real commie plot may be to encourage the far right to espouse such outrageously silly positions, and rant about such minor meaningless issues that the middle of the road voter sees them as fools and fringe nuts. Joe McCarthy is a case study, he accused every one (except himself), of being a commie. He died a lonely, disgraced fool.

The term McCarthyism, coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, was soon applied to similar anti-communist activities. Today the term is used more generally in reference to demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents

1130Leo · Dec 4, 2014

The pipeline was built and owned by an american company up until a few years ago, Trans Canada has bought up several pipeline companies in the last 10 years or so. Like everything else, anyone can buy american companies, but do not think an american would be welcome to buy companies elsewhere...

Wemedeeres · Dec 4, 2014

I don't understand some of these anti pipeline people, from what you have said they are by the book and do everything to make it as safe as possible and restore your land back to better than before they had been there.

I don't see or hear them protesting tanker ships coming across the oceans, chances are they have heat in their homes whether it comes from natural gas or fuel oil chances are its in a pipeline but smaller, they more than likely drive cars that they fuel up at the local gas station that has its tanks buried under the concrete slab they are parked on!!

Hay hay hay · Dec 4, 2014

Prohibition might be a bad example of a abundant cause. Some of prohibition's strongest supporters were rural protestants and the KKK.

Anti-prohibitionists, criticized the alcohol ban as an intrusion of mainly rural Protestant ideals on urban life.

It is easy to talk about freedom, but the contradiction is that the same people here in KY that loudly protest any government regulations that reduce their freedoms, want a ban on gambling, limited alcohol sales, and laws to make abortion illegal. They aggressively support laws that force their own personal beliefs on others.

Sure seems hypocritical.

Brian G. NY · Dec 4, 2014

Sometimes things go terribly wrong.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/16/nyregion/explosion-in-rural-hamlet-raises-troubling-questions.html

Wilks54 · Dec 4, 2014

(quoted from post at 08:38:27 12/04/14) Sometimes things go terribly wrong.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/16/nyregion/explosion-in-rural-hamlet-raises-troubling-questions.html

You referenced an article from 25 years ago? And, that was a propane line, not a crude line.

No matter how people feel about them, pipelines are still the most economical and safest way to transport petroleum products in the US. The scarier method of transport is via rail, like the Quebec incident a couple years ago. It seems like folks are less fired up about rail transport though.

Spook · Dec 4, 2014

Have you ever noticed that all the missionary trips are during the winter, and they go someplace warm, where the local girls wear skimpy outfits? I was invited on one a few years ago, I was told to bring my golf clubs! The minister needed a couple more guys, so he could get his free trip.....

And the same folks come back home, with a tan, and go back to thumping the bible. Hey, it pays the bills!

T in NE · Dec 4, 2014

I have heard that Warren Buffet is one of the biggest donors to the anti-pipeline people, He's making too much money with UP hauling oil.

Every time I hear someone talking about having to stop it, I say "meanwhile, IN 2014, we can't move grain out of North Dakota, or out of the nnalert valley, due to the railroads being so busy hauling oil, and spilling more in the first half of this year than pipelines have in the last 35+".

I think the co-op still has a half a train load of wheat in Bartley, 2 bunkers are full of corn, one with milo, and a pile of corn on the ground. And the ethanol plant in Cambridge has 2 piles of corn on the ground. There's no where left to put it around here. We bagged a boatload because it took twice as many trucks as it should have to keep up with the combine. It was taking them that long to get dumped in town.

Bret4207 · Dec 5, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:21:54 12/04/14) Joe McCarthy is alive.

The real commie plot may be to encourage the far right to espouse such outrageously silly positions, and rant about such minor meaningless issues that the middle of the road voter sees them as fools and fringe nuts. Joe McCarthy is a case study, he accused every one (except himself), of being a commie. He died a lonely, disgraced fool.

The term McCarthyism, coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, was soon applied to similar anti-communist activities. Today the term is used more generally in reference to demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents

The problem was the McCarthy was right about a lot of the accusations he made. Alger Hiss WAS a communist and a spy. There was a whole bunch of paperwork declassified a few years back that proved out much of what McCarthy claimed. There have been books written about it. Look up "Verona Project declassified", see proof that Victor Perlo, Judith Coplon, Morton Sobell, William Perl, Alfred Sarant, Joel Barr, and Harry Gold were all communist party workers. There's a reason all those people took the 5th. Do it the easy way and pick up a copy of Ann Coulters book "Treason". You probably don't like Ann too much, but the facts and footnotes are all there. Even PBS has recognized the facts and has an article on it, although they don't get into McCarthy- http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/venona/intercepts.html

Was McCarthy a great guy? No. Was he a bit of a tool? Yup. Was he wrong? NO! That's the important part Edd. FDR and Truman DID have Soviet spies working in the WH, in the State Dept and elsewhere that were actively working against the US. People want to forget the most of FDR's "Brain Trust" were not only communist sympathizers, but that FDR sent them to Russia to get ideas on how to do things in the US. (They want to gloss over that there was going to be a statue of Mussolini erected in Wash DC too, but that's another story!) FDR and Truman just couldn't believe that the Soviets were that far into the gov't. McCarthy did, he spoke about it and he couldn't release the Verona Intercepts. Smart move on his part? Maybe, maybe not. But history has painted McCarthy unfairly.

Hay hay hay · Dec 5, 2014

Yes, even our leaders make mistakes. One recent president said "I looked the man (Putin) in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul."

Must have been dark and hazy that day.

Bret4207 · Dec 9, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:23:17 12/05/14) Yes, even our leaders make mistakes. One recent president said "I looked the man (Putin) in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul."

Must have been dark and hazy that day.

Yeah, I didn't buy that line then either.

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