354 perkins block heater

White Pwr · Nov 27, 2014

I have a 354 perkins and want to put a block heater in it. I understand that there is a heater in the front hose, but this doesn't get the engine warm enough. I want to put it behind the injection pump where there is a 3/4" plug. How much room is behind that plug? How long of a heater can I put in there? How many watt? Any help is appreciated.... Thanks!!!!

Bob · Nov 27, 2014

You don't have to GUESS.

Zerostart and others publish catalogs of what will fit that engine.

Below is a link to the Zerostart catalog, showing a couple of options.
Look on .pdf page 68 catalog page 66

JD Seller · Nov 27, 2014

IF you have a Oliver/White with the block heater in the front hose then it should easily heat the motor. If it is not then you may need to replace the current block heater.

White Pwr · Nov 27, 2014

I had it plugged in for five hours and felt the hose and it was warm. Felt the block and it was freezing still.... I know on our other tractors when we plug them in with the heater installed in the block the block itself gets warm...

DeltaRed · Nov 27, 2014

I would suggest a circulateing tank type heater.That
will warm your engine!

danofarming · Nov 27, 2014

On the Massey that we had it was on the right near the fuel lift pump. My 1850 had one in the rad hose, it always started.

Donald Lehman · Nov 27, 2014

I'll second JD. You've got a bum heating unit or a bad cord. Shouldn't take over an hour to an hour and a half in the coldest weather to warm that block up.

JD Seller · Nov 27, 2014

White Pwr: You say the block felt cold. How did the tractor start??? I have tractors that the block felt cold on the out side even when they where running in real cold weather. They started fine. That is a better indicator on the block heater.

The MF 1130 used a heater in the block. It was just in front of the injection pump on the right hand side. The non heater ones had plug that you screwed out and an adaptor. The heater is not very long and screws straight in to the block.

Some 354 blocks do not have the hole in them for the block heater.

White Pwr · Nov 27, 2014

It would fire but wouldn't start, I guess I don't understand how the heater in the front can heat the water near the cab.

Billy Shafer · Nov 27, 2014

If it is thermostat controlled. It will heat the cooling system to that set tempature. If it is for short term use. It will heat the until it is boiling.

JD Seller · Nov 27, 2014

Thermal cycle. The heater should be in the lower front hose where it goes directly into the water pump. The heater heats the water and the hot water raises as it is lighter than cold water. This should make the warm water go up through the water pump into the cylinder head and heat the entire engine. This usually works well.

I am assuming you has an Oliver/White tractor. The correct heater has along element that screws into the cast elbow that is below the inlet on the water pump. The correct element is 6-8 inches long so it goes up towards the water pump a good ways.

IS your coolant system full of water??? If it is not then you can have the thermal cycle not work and the block will be cold.

The tank style heaters work with the thermal cycle principle too. There is not a pump in them to circulate the water. Just a check valve in the bottom inlet and warm water raising make them work.

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