dr sportster
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It has become another form of Pop. Don't these modern guys know about steel guitar. Don't they listen to any classic country. I even got that they disrespected George Jones on that show last night. Maybe it's just me.
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Music evolves and I'm ok with that.
Just puzzles me that it is a country awards show, so they have pop stars come on and duet a pop song with a country star?
Shouldn't a country awards show feature country songs, the pop stars can sing some country on a country show?
Clearly these are just variaty shos put on by NYC producers and are not really about awards, just ratings and trying to cross over music sales to new youngsters. It's not about the music, its about promoting the music sales.
Paul
Just puzzles me that it is a country awards show, so they have pop stars come on and duet a pop song with a country star?
Shouldn't a country awards show feature country songs, the pop stars can sing some country on a country show?
Clearly these are just variaty shos put on by NYC producers and are not really about awards, just ratings and trying to cross over music sales to new youngsters. It's not about the music, its about promoting the music sales.
Paul
Absent Minded Farmer
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IMHO, country has been pop since the '70s. The people who lived the lives that gave Western music it's original feel were all dying off or long dead, as in the case of Uncle Dave Macon. He had a mule team freight service looooong before the Opry & passed in the '50s. To keep country alive, it had to get a different polish to it to keep it interesting. As that genre progressed through the '80s.... I have no idea what happened to it, I had lost interest. I have heard some songs since, but they indeed sound less & less like the music they are touted to be. Wait! I do have a contemporary country artist in my music collection, Hank III. 'Bout as modern as I get & I'm not much younger than Mr. III.
Mike
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No dr, its NOT just you. However its big money driven business and they go where the buyers are and are catering to the young and cool and in crowd who spend money on their product, and that's NOT an old conservative tightwad fuddy duddy like myself lol
I have like 2100 of my favorite songs (50 n 60's Rock n Roll & old classic real country) and over 10,000 Old Time Radio Episodes in my I Tunes and I Pod so I don't need anymore of their product lol
John T
I have like 2100 of my favorite songs (50 n 60's Rock n Roll & old classic real country) and over 10,000 Old Time Radio Episodes in my I Tunes and I Pod so I don't need anymore of their product lol
John T
I'm glad they do call it country! That way I know what to avoid!
OZ is correct. The labels are telling a singer/band what to do and if they don't they are out the door. It's based on the average buyer who generally is younger.
Was just at my nephews wedding last weekend. When the wedding dance started they were playing classic rock. When they switched over to country about 10:30 more than half the people left. We had 2 7 year olds and a 1 year old with us that were getting pretty tired. Glad that gave us an excuse to leave.
Rick
Just thought I'd chime in here. Country and rock were once very close...Elvis was on both country and rock charts, Roy Orbison, Johnny Cash, Buddy Holly etc. But guys like Hank Williams were always "country". Now, Country and Pop are merging in order to get the younger generation...there is still pure country music out there but radio stations and record labels don't see enough $$$ in it to market it. Our local station just axed a "Sunday Morning Country Oldies" show. No more Johnny Cash or George Jones on the FM dial in Boston. Heck they rarely even play George Straight or Alan Jackson either.
buickanddeere
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Old Country is disappearing because fewer and fewer people want to listen to tunes of endless, hopeless heartache, deep sorrow and loss.
Classified by taste in music. Old time Country music listeners had one of the highest suicide rates.
Back in the 70's and days of vinyl records. The big deal was some supposed evil messages that could if a rock song was played backwards.
We tried spinning a country song backwards. The dude got his women, his farm and his health back.
Classified by taste in music. Old time Country music listeners had one of the highest suicide rates.
Back in the 70's and days of vinyl records. The big deal was some supposed evil messages that could if a rock song was played backwards.
We tried spinning a country song backwards. The dude got his women, his farm and his health back.
buickanddeere
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Shania Twain looks pretty good in her videos. I'll take that instead.
formenwhogrow
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Agreed JerryS. Agreed.
formenwhogrow
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To quote country singer Sammy Kershaw, "country is the only music genre that hates itself". You don't see hip hop awards shows inviting country artists to perform on their award shows do ya? Sometime back country quit embracing what it is and went dead set against itself in any way possible in order to placate to a wider audience (ie "pop"). Actually they have always done this to an extent, it's just been a lot more blatant and pronounced in the last 20 yrs.
To tell you the truth,I pretty much quit listening to it after that movie Urban Cowboy came out. When I couldn't turn on the radio without hearing Kenny Rogers or the Oak Ridge Boys,that was it for me. Big Bluegrass fan.
I do listen to WSM Online from time to time,but they tend to play a fair amount of older stuff.
Here's what Collin Raye had to say about it on his website.
"There appears to be not even the slightest attempt to “say” anything other than to repeat the tired, overused mantra of redneck party boy in his truck, partying in said truck, hoping to get lucky in the cab of said truck, and his greatest possible achievement in life is to continue to be physically and emotionally attached to the aforementioned truck as all things in life should and must take place in his, you guessed it…truck".
I do listen to WSM Online from time to time,but they tend to play a fair amount of older stuff.
Here's what Collin Raye had to say about it on his website.
"There appears to be not even the slightest attempt to “say” anything other than to repeat the tired, overused mantra of redneck party boy in his truck, partying in said truck, hoping to get lucky in the cab of said truck, and his greatest possible achievement in life is to continue to be physically and emotionally attached to the aforementioned truck as all things in life should and must take place in his, you guessed it…truck".
dr sportster
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Early 80s was called the "Nashville Sound" . Crystal Gale , Mickey Gilley , John Conlee. It was listenable but I think the beginning of the pop sound to it. Now Hank 3 , that boy is crazy. He can afford new books but his are held together with duct tape.
Steve@Advance
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Purty much says it all for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjMKgLXx990
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjMKgLXx990
Russ from MN
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Pretty much a rock and roll fan, grew up in the 50's and 60's, but we sure do like Willie Nelson, and some classic country. There is a great Willie impersonator in AJ AZ, at the AZ Opry, hope to go back at least once this winter.
Traditional Farmer
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Yea they just don't make 'um like Country Joe McDonald and the Fish anymore(LOL).Country music now is pretty much gotten like Blue Grass it all sounds the same after listening to more than 3 songs.I like a wide variety of music Jefferson Airplane,Patsy Cline,Marshall Tucker Band,Jim Morrison,George Jones,Janis Joplin,Hank Jr&Sr. just to name a few of my favorites.
dr sportster
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Good vid . Pretty pure country music there.
Bruce from Can.
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Gave up on Country music too , sad really . They call it country, but it's not from any country I know of. Sounds kinda city or maybe Sh!ty would be closer.
There is nothing better than good classic country music. My friends don't understand why I don't like the new stuff. If I wanted to listen to hip hop and rap, I'd turn the radio to those stations. I'm fortunate to have two stations locally that play the good stuff; 107.9fm out of Stuart, IA and 540am from Fort Dodge, IA.
I heard a story about Randy Travis and when one of his first songs hit the charts his producer called with the news. Went something like... "Randy good news, your song made the charts. Not country though, but the pop charts." To which Randy replied, "The pop charts? Well, get it off of there!"
I heard a story about Randy Travis and when one of his first songs hit the charts his producer called with the news. Went something like... "Randy good news, your song made the charts. Not country though, but the pop charts." To which Randy replied, "The pop charts? Well, get it off of there!"
Now I could never stand to listen to the local country station when growing up. I did like a few of the crossover songs from back then from Dolly Pardon and Kenny Rodgers.
I kind of like the newer versions of country music out now. The regular stations I used to listen to pop music on all play the new stuff which sounds like Rap to me and I can't stand that !
To really appreciate todays country music and stars you NEED to watch the music videos. Lots of VERY HOT WOMEN !!!!!!
I kind of like the newer versions of country music out now. The regular stations I used to listen to pop music on all play the new stuff which sounds like Rap to me and I can't stand that !
To really appreciate todays country music and stars you NEED to watch the music videos. Lots of VERY HOT WOMEN !!!!!!
Brown Swiss
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I would rather listen to an all day playing of the Static Brothers than modern day music.
As much as it pains me, I place the blame on Dolly and Kenny Rodgers.
I remember reading interviews they gave in the late 70's saying how important it was that country stars tried for those cross-over hits and brought their music more in line with pop.
There are very few artists that appeared after 79 that are worth listening to.
Dwight Yoakum and Junior Brown have been bright spots in an otherwise bleak country music scene.
I remember reading interviews they gave in the late 70's saying how important it was that country stars tried for those cross-over hits and brought their music more in line with pop.
There are very few artists that appeared after 79 that are worth listening to.
Dwight Yoakum and Junior Brown have been bright spots in an otherwise bleak country music scene.
If you don't sell it there's no profit motive to make more. People will tell you they play for the music, but deep down every musician has a dream of making it to the big time, and you're not going to do that singing about how your horse died, your wife left, your dog ran away, your truck broke down, and the bill collectors are knocking at the door.
The beauty of it is there's plenty of music out there to make you happy, and plenty of ways to enjoy it without commercial radio. You don't have to listen to it if you don't like it.
Live about an hour from Nashville and the folks we buy our trucks from invited us up for the show. Had a good meal and nice comrade but the show was not much. Lots of glitz and glamor but not much country music. Loretta Lynn can still get by for an 80 year old. Thanked our host and made it in after midnight.
Shania Twain lost me cause I ain't toeing the line for her or any other woman. Don't ask me is something make you look fat. You may not like the answer! I'll be there when I get there and not one minute sooner!
The great thing here is we can all have our own taste in music!
Dad was stationed at Ft Monmouth NJ when I was a kid. There was a country station that he listened to out of Hoboken. By the time I was 10 I was burned out on "there's a tear in my beer". I do like some of the outlaw stuff and country rock but hate Kenny Rogers. When Country rock fell to the wayside in the late 90's I went back to listening to rock.
That's the big reason I don't participate in tractor shows. The evening entertainment to me is extremely boring! And the older than me guys who are running things won't change but want to sit and cry cause they can't get young people involve.
Rick
The great thing here is we can all have our own taste in music!
Dad was stationed at Ft Monmouth NJ when I was a kid. There was a country station that he listened to out of Hoboken. By the time I was 10 I was burned out on "there's a tear in my beer". I do like some of the outlaw stuff and country rock but hate Kenny Rogers. When Country rock fell to the wayside in the late 90's I went back to listening to rock.
That's the big reason I don't participate in tractor shows. The evening entertainment to me is extremely boring! And the older than me guys who are running things won't change but want to sit and cry cause they can't get young people involve.
Rick
Anonymous-0
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Excellent tune! Thanks for posting it........here's another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3dobg1geGA
Rollie NE PA
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I like to listen to George Strait.
As far as steel guitar music I think David Hartley is one of the best. His version of Stand By You Man has some pretty good licks in it.
As far as steel guitar music I think David Hartley is one of the best. His version of Stand By You Man has some pretty good licks in it.
Jim in N.M.
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AMEN to that, That "Crap" that was on last night,You couldn't even understand a word that they sang! all they did was shake you know what about. If that's what you want to look at so be it ! give me the old CW anytime !! just my .02 cents. Jim in N.M.
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J.Wondergem
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Guess I'm not alone in this. I just listen to Pandora classic, and the Wife's on Direct TV classic, Bluegrass, and the Cumberland Highlanders.
redforlife
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Unfortunately, the buisness itself has strayed away from country. The majority of the revenue is generated from concert ticket sales, cd sales, t.v. show appearances, and so on all of wich is targoted to the younger folks as consumers. And they are just not going to get into listening to a song about one eyed rover killing a chicken out in the front yard and aunt Nora taking it away cooking it up for supper. Its kinda like going to a modern day tractor pull and the big fad right now is these young gals wearing shorts and cowboy boots. Well thats fine and dandy but let me tell ya something, that is as red neck as they are going to get. Not going to budge an inch on getting anymore rednecky than that. Its kinda like drawing a line in the sand and doing this but not that and the same when it comes to music. OK, a little splash of country twang OK, but don't ask me to get into anything to hillbilly. So, the music reflects this too. Just get ready, country going to splash over into the rap some too to pick up sales. All about the dollar.
rodgernbama
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If it wasn't for dirt roads and tailgates today's country writers wouldn't have a song because that comprises 90% of the subject matter. When the big companies like Sony came to Nashville country music went downhill. Genres all run together today with no distinction between pop and country. I listen to bluegrass nowadays. Mostly good singers and musicians in it.
Ultradog MN
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I don't have much time for it.
I have the radio buttons in my pickup set to a couple of oldies rock stations, NPR and 3 talk radio stations.
None are set to country.
I rarely listen to music anyway.
Why would you when you can listen to Bill Bennet, Rush, Mark Levin and All Things Considered?
I have the radio buttons in my pickup set to a couple of oldies rock stations, NPR and 3 talk radio stations.
None are set to country.
I rarely listen to music anyway.
Why would you when you can listen to Bill Bennet, Rush, Mark Levin and All Things Considered?
Anonymous-0
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I think you missed the point, they're saying what most of the posters here are saying.
Here's the original and much better version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03AUqXUQDrc
BushogPapa
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I listen to most, but I Prefer Garrison Kieler..
Dave in GA
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I used to love country up to the 80s, and then it just became rock music with a bit of fiddle and steel guitar. The heavy rock beat changed it forever. Grew up on Hee Haw, Loretta, Porter and Dolly, Faron Young, and a bunch or others. Then Waylon and the other "tough guys" came along with more of the hard rock sound. That's my take of the evolution anyway.
It seems like all the male country vocalists have southern drawls. Growing up in Michigan with country folks, country music sounded so southern that we couldn't really relate to it, even though it had a nice sound. I wondered if there was a rule that you couldn't sing country music if you didn't have a southern drawl.
Now it seems that the main theme in country is honky-tonks, which I can't relate to. I listen to bluegrass and southern gospel quartet and love it.
It seems like all the male country vocalists have southern drawls. Growing up in Michigan with country folks, country music sounded so southern that we couldn't really relate to it, even though it had a nice sound. I wondered if there was a rule that you couldn't sing country music if you didn't have a southern drawl.
Now it seems that the main theme in country is honky-tonks, which I can't relate to. I listen to bluegrass and southern gospel quartet and love it.
Russ from MN
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Really, the same person listens to NPR and Rush?
My wife and daughter and me (somewhat) listen to todays country, but I hate it. All todays "stars" are cookie cutter clones of each other with no distinct sound. Each girl singer is a "hottie" and the guys are all buff. Other than that you can't tell one song from another. Its amazing how the industry shuns those with a traditional sound like Scotty McCreary. I listen to classic country, the older the better. My wife and I just went Monday to a David Ball concert given in our small local theater. It was very good and I feel he is under rated. We had front row seats and met him after. Now that King George is retired country can move forward to puke out all the rap blends it wants with no anchor to its real sound.
I have heard that a million times, "Country music makes people commit suicide." I've known a lot of people that killed themselves and investigated a lot of suicides. Music has never been a cause of suicide. Health issues, money issues, relationship issues and simple mental health issues are why people commit suicide. Rock music didn't make girls into tramps and metal doesn't make them into druggies. Any study that purports to find that music makes you suicidal is biased to start with. Garbage data in, garbage data out.
buickanddeere
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X2 there red
Hay hay hay
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Glad to know that Mark Levin's voice grates on someone else. 30 seconds is my limit.
Anonymous-0
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Nailed it......End thread here.
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