Wagner Loader Valve

First let me thank everybody with their replies and help on my pump getting to hot. After I replumed it that stopped but nothing moves when the controls are operated. So I sat down and thought about it from when I started working on it. When I first put it on and cranked up the tractor it would lift slowly but would not go down. If you pushed the control to lower it would still raise. I had to turn the tractor off then it would lower with the control. The bucket cylinder would work in and out but slowly and I would have to open up the throddle to get this to work. It was puking foamy fluid out of the filler so I said air leak. I took apart every connection and put sealer on it and tighned them up. Cranked the tractor and it had enough pressure then that it blew out the old seal on the pump shaft! Went every where and they all said to old no parts replace. So I did. Now with a good pump and connections I decided to tackle the control issue. I found a diasgram for the exact control valve I had. Well i took it apart and replaced the o-rings on the controls, rebuilt the handle bushings and linkage ect. Then I found in the valve on the side somebody had a bolt in the spring so the round plate and ball could not move. I removed that. Second thing aafter looking at the diagram the I belive relief valve on the back side of the valve was missing the ball and spring. Well I got a ball and guessed at the spring. Now after all of that it won't do anything. So I think my problem is in that control valve system but I don't know what. I'm going to do some more investigating and put everything back like it was and see what happens. Ant ideas? I'm not going to let this thing get the best of me! Thanks everybody again.

Can you post a picture with the current plumbing, you have changed so many things.

Here's a picture. First thing is I now have the two hoses on the right reversed now. I had the pressure line from the pump going to the pressure side of the bucket cylinder. Second the valve with the missing spring and ball is facing you on the right bottom. Third the valve with the bolt in it is the big plug on the left.

Sorry picture didn't upload. I'll try again

Please describe where each hose goes.

I believe the supply comes in on the side and the return out the bottom.

I would plug all the holes on the top, plumb in a pressure gauge on the supply. You should have no pressure with the levers in neutral, and relief pressure when you pull/push either lever.

Go from there.

1.Left back bucket
2.Left front bucket
3.Right far back and lower incoming pressure line from pump.
4.Right back likt cylinder up
5.Right front pluged because it's a single acting

ON all the valve bodies I have and I have at least 4 on the place the inlet for the pump and outlet as in back to the tank are clearly marked and they come in form the sides and flow threw the open center of the valve body so when a control is pulled the fluid is diverted to the cylinder

is lower not return to pump?

You need an in and out.

Good hearing from you Rich.

Yes the one on the very bottom on the left. Sorry.

I see nothing wrong with your piping, you need to add a pressure gauge now to go further.

Haven't gone any where just not posting as often due to not having a reason to post

I usually think about you or ultradog when I see a Ford post.

Ya both my fords have loader on them and the one has the backhoe on it. I have more A/C and more Farmall then any thing else

And 1 JD?

1 JD that runs the 1935 B and 2 parts JDs

Are you telling us the description you listed is not correct?