I need some new tires on an old wagon. I have a bunch of good used 16” truck tires I could use but need different wheels. Currently I have 15” wheels, some of which are beat up. Are there any common truck rims that will interchange with a 6 bolt implement rim? Hate to have to buy brand new rims!
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Paul from MI
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If your implements don't see highway speeds, I have used old rims of the size you want and cut the centers out of your current ones, then welded together. I might not want tow anything like that very fast, but it worked well for me. It does take some careful measuring to get everything running true, but I have never had one break.
Odd that you mention that, my dad did that on the 8N Ford fronts back in the early 1970s. He had a loader on it and wanted wider tires than the narrow ones. He painted the rims afterwards and placed them on an old wood stove to bake the paint on. That held up well and the rims were straight as could be.
Steve@Advance
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They can be cut and welded.
But a reminder! Don't cut or weld with the tire on the wheel!!!
But a reminder! Don't cut or weld with the tire on the wheel!!!
old
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- Camdenton Missouri
Good chance they are the common 6 bolt rim and if so no common truck or car rim that will fit
fixerupper
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Roger's suggestion will work if you have 5 hole implement hubs. The old ford 1/2 ton from possibly the mid-seventies and older had that rim pattern but they were probably 15". You might have to enlarge the center hole to 4" to fit the hub. Jim
bradley martin
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New 16" rims to fit implement hubs are available, but not cheap. However, if you have good used tires to fit, it may well be a cheaper option than buying new 15" rubber
I've heard that 6 bolt wheels are hard to find.
(Rims are not wheels, wheels are not rims). But
every 6 bolt wheel I have interchanges with each
other. Front wheels on all of my tractors have the
same pattern- Case, IH, Oliver, MM, and all of my
plows are all the same, just the width changes.
Seems to me they should be everywhere.
(Rims are not wheels, wheels are not rims). But
every 6 bolt wheel I have interchanges with each
other. Front wheels on all of my tractors have the
same pattern- Case, IH, Oliver, MM, and all of my
plows are all the same, just the width changes.
Seems to me they should be everywhere.
Ultradog MN
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Delta Red is correct. Implement rims use a 6 on 6" bolt pattern and the older 6 bolt Chevy, etc rims use something like 6 on 5 1/2".
Implement rims are not cheap. I paid about $220 out the door for a pair last fall.
But...
When you consider you can run cheap or free car or truck tires And you can run them tubeless the price starts looking a little better.
Tubeless also means you can use a plug to fix one and not have to take it off the tractor.
I use implement rims on both of my tractors.
Implement rims are not cheap. I paid about $220 out the door for a pair last fall.
But...
When you consider you can run cheap or free car or truck tires And you can run them tubeless the price starts looking a little better.
Tubeless also means you can use a plug to fix one and not have to take it off the tractor.
I use implement rims on both of my tractors.
"Rims are not wheels and wheels are not rims" you included in parenthesis. Teach me the difference. I have running gear manuals for a John Deere 953, a Gehl 500, and a New Idea 629. All three refer to the steel round thing that the tire is mounted on as a wheel. Is your point that the outer actual circle of steel is the rim? I did buy 4 blank rims once to weld spokes onto. When I deal with my local farm tire dealer, we both use rim and wheel interchangeably. I just ordered 2 5-bolt 5"x15" rims for the Gehl and got what I ordered - two rims/wheels to mount the tires on. TimWafer used both terms in his request and I believe everyone that responded understood his situation. Tell me the difference so I'll use the right words in my next conversation about wheels/rims.
Not sure if you're being condescending or not, but I'll answer the question anyway. This is just one of those little peeves of mine, and I apologize for pointing it out. I used to sell automotive wheels and tires, so I suppose that's where it comes from. In the first picture of my MM, the whole yellow thing inside the tire is a wheel. The silver part in the second picture is a rim. A coffee cup has a rim, but we call it a coffee cup, A wheel has a rim, where you would attach a weight when balancing, but the whole thing is a wheel. A balancer in an automotive shop is not called a rim balancer, it's a wheel balancer. There are numerous companies, for example, that manufacture racing wheels. American Racing Wheels, Weld Wheel, Motor Wheel, and none of them use "rim" in their name. I think I know how this terminology started, but it wouldn't be politically correct to voice my opinion. Again, sorry for being picky- it's just one of those things that bugs me.
Actually I had never given this a thought and had used the terms interchangeably, obviously by my first post. I didn’t even realize I had used both terms. Thanks for educating me. I will try to use the correct term in the future.
So to clarify, I’m looking for used 16” wheels with a 6-bolt 6” circle pattern and a 4-5/8” center hole.
The one I saw at auction for $55 was pretty rusty. New ones seem to be $115 or more online plus shipping. That would be in the $500 range for 4.
I wouldn’t be opposed to welding some up and hadn’t considered that before either. Guess I’ll start looking for wheels for that purpose as well. I didn’t think this would be such a challenge to come up with.
Tim
No, I wasn't trying to stir any pot with my response and sorry if it came out that way. Thanks for clearing up the rim/wheel difference for me. Having refurbished 8 running gears in the past few years I have had to replace a few wheels which I usually referred to as rims. I understand your point.
massey 333
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You need to go thru some Ag wheel books,5 different books listed them as wheels/rims.Plus the Dayton and Bud truck thing are called wheels.
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