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Formerly PaMike

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I buy and sell some skidsteers on the side. I have some regular haulers I deal with.Every once in a while I buy a machine in an area that my regular guys dont get to, so I throw a listing on Uship. I used to get a fair amount of interest and bids. The last two listings have gotten no more than 1 or 2 inquires. This last listing I got a bid from a guy with a 1/2 ton truck and 7000 lb gvw trailer looking to move my 6200 lb skidsteer 500 miles. Recipe for disaster. Did Uship drive all the legit haulers away with their high fees and constantly changing format? I used to be able to link up with legit haulers that were looking to fill out a load or were looking for a backhaul. Now its just weekend warriors looking for cash. Kinda scary....
 
Maybe A&E hired some even more sketchy drivers to send a camera crew along with for even more drama.
 
I've never used them myself, but I think between what you said and what rruland said combined, it pretty much sums it up.

I mean seriously given some of the crap I've seen on TV in regard to the idiots that work through Uship it just plain gives them a bad name. I know if I was in the hauling business I wouldn't want to have anything to do with them for that very reason. Throw in giving my profits away to them for 'getting me a load' and trying to keep up with something that constantly changed, and I would run as far as I could before the bad image rubbed off on me and left me broke.
 
Because I dont want to get a call that my skidsteer is sitting in a walmart parking lot 300 miles away because the guy blew a tranny on his 1/2 ton truck and doesnt have the money to fix it. Anyone that is trying to run a hauling company with a 1/2 ton truck isnt going to get my business for a variety of reasons...
 
i do understand you and nobody wants that for sure. but the ole murphys law can happen to anybody. Just me personally i wouldnt care if they where pulling it behind a motorcycle as long as they where insured .
 
(quoted from post at 09:39:31 08/26/14) i do understand you and nobody wants that for sure. but the ole murphys law can happen to anybody. Just me personally i wouldnt care if they where pulling it behind a motorcycle as long as they where insured .
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The truck and trailer do not belong to you, but the skidsteer does. You know the skidsteer is too heavy for the truck and trailer, but you allow it to go anyhow. IF that truck and trailer are involved in a traffic accident, YOU could be held legally accountable and a lawsuit could be brought against you.
 
(quoted from post at 13:33:15 08/26/14)
(quoted from post at 09:39:31 08/26/14) i do understand you and nobody wants that for sure. but the ole murphys law can happen to anybody. Just me personally i wouldnt care if they where pulling it behind a motorcycle as long as they where insured .
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The truck and trailer do not belong to you, but the skidsteer does. You know the skidsteer is too heavy for the truck and trailer, but you allow it to go anyhow. IF that truck and trailer are involved in a traffic accident, YOU could be held legally accountable and a lawsuit could be brought against you.
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Pure B.S.
 
(quoted from post at 13:59:46 08/26/14)
(quoted from post at 13:33:15 08/26/14)
(quoted from post at 09:39:31 08/26/14) i do understand you and nobody wants that for sure. but the ole murphys law can happen to anybody. Just me personally i wouldnt care if they where pulling it behind a motorcycle as long as they where insured .
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The truck and trailer do not belong to you, but the skidsteer does. You know the skidsteer is too heavy for the truck and trailer, but you allow it to go anyhow. IF that truck and trailer are involved in a traffic accident, YOU could be held legally accountable and a lawsuit could be brought against you.
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Pure B.S.
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Don't be so quick to judge. With the over-abundance of under-employed lawyers we have now, it could very easily happen. Not to mention that your skidsteer just might end up in the impound lot and you'd have to pay to get it out.
 
(quoted from post at 13:59:46 08/26/14)
(quoted from post at 13:33:15 08/26/14)
(quoted from post at 09:39:31 08/26/14) i do understand you and nobody wants that for sure. but the ole murphys law can happen to anybody. Just me personally i wouldnt care if they where pulling it behind a motorcycle as long as they where insured .
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The truck and trailer do not belong to you, but the skidsteer does. You know the skidsteer is too heavy for the truck and trailer, but you allow it to go anyhow. IF that truck and trailer are involved in a traffic accident, YOU could be held legally accountable and a lawsuit could be brought against you.
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Pure B.S.
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The basis for any lawsuit is a duty that was failed. For example: hand rails on a set of steps. No handrail you failed to make those steps as safe as possible. Why do you think brokers match loads to drivers/equipment? Because they have a duty to insure that any loads it contracts out meet safety standards for shipping.

As a former insurance adjuster I would be asking questions. Like were you hauling for hire? Who hired you? Did they know what you were hauling with. Any proof they knew like saved text messages or Emails? Were you hauling for a business? Does this person/business have business insurance? Any wrong answer I would refer it to the company's legal department.

So yes, you could be a co-defendant if you allowed the guy to haul something he doesn't have the proper equipment for.

Before you start with "well I've always hauled with...." if you get into an accident while overloaded, car or truck not only are you legally liable you could be charged with something like negligent homicide should someone be killed. Not to mention that most states can and will nail you for over weight or un/under secured load.

Rick
 
Been using it for years with great results.
You are the one who ultimately decides to book the shipment or not, if the shipper and his/her Rig looks sketchy then don't book with them!
 
The gas station that supplird the gas for the half ton pickup would also be a co-defendant. The company that built the air compressor that filled the tires with air would probably be liable also.
 
Think about it. If a well healed and well insured shipper knowingly hired an under-equipped and under-insured carrier that injures a third party during the shipment, why wouldn't the injured party have every right to go after the shipper to pay for any damages that exceeded the carrier's coverage? Follow the money until all the damages are paid off. The shipper's insurance will likely settle out of court.
 
I was one of the highest rated guys on the site and found it very difficult to make a profit. Seems everyone that ended up that site didn"t want to pay what it cost to haul.

Typical was the Ebay buyer who won his bid on a motorcycle in NY and wanted it in LA for $200, or guys that want to only pay back-haul rates.

So yes, between the large fee UShip charged, high fuel, and very low margins, we"ve all been driven away.

You can only load up with so many "back-hauls".
 
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