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da.bees

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I am installing new rear tubes & tires and valve stem holes have rusted out. Were it regular wheels instead of spin-out I would replace them.
I have to hire someone for welding and job shops are not found around here any longer. Everbody is doing production work and don"t want one of a kind jobs. With that said I will drop my wheels off at a shop that will do them at their convinuence. I"d like to have the wheels clean and patches formed ready to weld in. My question is how thin can the patch be covering a 3"x3" hole in 28" wheel inflated to 16 psi. Is 14gauge suffecient?
 
The bad material will extend to a larger area than what you can see. When I welded mine, I thought I had cut out all the bad, but when the rod arc-ed, it would blow away the bad material. If you are putting a scab patch over the top of the hole, you will need to be sure it covers a large enough area to get into the good metal.
SDE
 
I think if you have a 3"x3" hole in a wheel you need a new wheel. The spot will be bigger than you think and there will be more spots you don't see.
 
I've seen holes in wheels, usually caused by loading tires with calcium chloride.

Try searching ebay, you may be able to get tires and rims.
 

The procedure I have always used is to drill a new hole in the good part of the rim for the valve stem and completely cover the old rusted out hole. If the rim is too far gone to drill a new hole, the rim needs replacing.

KEH
 
I dunno. I just grab the first piece of iron in the "spare parts repository" that covers the hole with and inch or two to spare and weld er in. Grind all rough edges smooth and then bevel with the grinder. Drill a new hole somewhere else in the wheel and away you go. Usually the iron is between 1/8 " to 3/8". Never pay much attention. I usually spray paint the welded section with whatever can of paint is closet to empty to use up the paint can.
 

Sounds like you have the justification that you need to get a welder. Save plenty of time and money.
 
Find a parts yard with a junk rim and buy it. then from a good spot cut an section out bigenough to completely replace your bad area and cut your present rim to fit the patch and weld it in. You can never make a patch and get the correct curvature to it.
 
Agreed. I bought a rim that was rusted out around the valvestem for a few dollars and used the rest of it to patch my torque slide rims.
 
When I patched mine I cut out a section about 18" long and about half the width of the rim. But then I welded in a section from another rim - I didn't try to roll my own metal.
 
I would clean it up to good metal and find a washer with right size hole and weld it in and grind it down smooth on both sides. Depending how smooth I got it on inside I might put several layers of duck tape over it.
 
I cut a section out of an old rim, then cut a square out of the rim I was saving leaving the bead, then cut and grind to fit and migged it together. The green tape on the rim is where the patch is, drilled a new stem hole on the outside.
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(quoted from post at 05:54:17 08/22/14) Find a parts yard with a junk rim and buy it. then from a good spot cut an section out bigenough to completely replace your bad area and cut your present rim to fit the patch and weld it in. You can never make a patch and get the correct curvature to it.
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Many hardware stores as you know carry a selection of steel aluminum etc. Some of the ones with a broader selection carry some 2 foot lengths of some steel bar stock with a curved cross section to it. I have found that this curved steel bar stock can be curved in its length to match the curve of the rim and the cross section is close to the rim cross section, making a patch much easier.
 
Sandblast the rim first to be sure you don't have any other weak spots. I have successfully formed pieces of 16ga. to fit into the bad area and brazed in place. Then grind the joint smooth and paint. If need be you can smooth the outside with bondo for looks. Done several that way with no problems.
 
Thanks a million everyone. I had never tried this before,wasn't even sure if it made sense to try. Thanks to your suggestions I feel confident I can make it work. 30 years ago I could take the wheel to any of a dozen shops nearby and they would handle it from there. As it stands I am lucky to know a couple of places that will bootleg a job if it can be done between closing for the day and locking the door. According to the salvage yards,vintage parts tractors in N.Tx has dried up.
 
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