Explanation of how the baler Knotter works..

just another old geezer · Jul 24, 2014

No, can't be that simple.....

JRSutton · Jul 24, 2014

that guy must have a really big piece of chalk to
reach all the way up there.

Cas · Jul 24, 2014

You could use that formula. An easier way would be to look on u-tube there are several videos on baler knotters.
I do not know where u-tube was 40 years ago when I needed. About twice a year I still have a dream about a lot of hay out and the knotter missing bales.

fixerupper · Jul 24, 2014

Whoever invented the knotter probably didn't realize his invention would be still be frustrating owners 100+ years later. On the other hand, to come up with an invention that is still heavily used and basically unchanged 100+ years after it's inception is remarkable. Jim

VicS · Jul 24, 2014

I agree. I can figure most things out. But I can't make our IHC baler tie every time. I also never figured exactly how a small Allis round baler worked. Even though I have put new endless belts on one, and baled many thousand bales with one. One latch would not hold and it would spring open on one side and look like it was ruined. But with a well placed kick would jump back together and be just fine. Vic

Allan in NE · Jul 24, 2014

I've never understood why folks put up with that aggravation.

Heck, I knew by the age of 10 that small square bales were a lunatic way of putting up hay.

Allan

bg/mo · Jul 24, 2014

magic lmao

the flying belgian · Jul 24, 2014

Just like food in the grocery isle. You have to put it in what ever type of package the customer wants.

Paul from MI · Jul 24, 2014

Actually one of the best explanations of knotters operation is in the old John Deere "Operation and Care of Farm Machinery" books. It doesn't apply to all knotters, as older IHC's are somewhat different, but the idea is there.

pete 23 · Jul 24, 2014

Worked on a lot of the IH double diameter knot style knotters . In other words, the type we refer to as McCormick knotter whereas the other style is called Deering knotter. What I always wanted was a camera to take pictures of what was happening when it missed a knot. Turning the flywheel by hand and watching each step while it ties gets your adjustments in perspective but it is a whole different ball game when that knot is tied in one second. What camera would it take to break that cycle down so you could see each movement clearly. Too late now to worry about it but just something I always thought some one would come up with. Another tool IH could try to make a reluctant dealer buy. Speaking of dealer tools, a lot of them were mandatory and shipped to dealer with introduction of new models but an awful lot were up to us mechanics to get on the boss and convince him we needed them. Then, after finally getting some of them, watching some of the guys abuse those very tools you groaned and moaned for years to get. Frustrating.

NEKS · Jul 24, 2014

Why couldn't we had big round bales back in the early fifties. All I know about knotters is I got a break on the wagon when it quite doing its job.

Chris Jones · Jul 25, 2014

Yea, that's what I figured, but I'm a visual learner. Thank goodness for youtube.
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mj · Jul 25, 2014

(quoted from post at 16:57:28 07/24/14) Whoever invented the knotter probably didn't realize his invention would be still be frustrating owners 100+ years later. On the other hand, to come up with an invention that is still heavily used and basically unchanged 100+ years after it's inception is remarkable. Jim

That is true of [b:95504c7841]A LOT[/b:95504c7841] of things that came from agriculture - pretty amazing! :shock:

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