Mountain Men --The show?

dej(Jed) · Jul 17, 2014

Okay, so the guy and his buddy in NC converted an old toyota or something like that to run on would chips. How could that be possible? How could CO2/CO and NOX emmission be burnt to create power? Confused in Pa.

ericlb · Jul 17, 2014

it can be done, but its complicated, trouble prone, that truck will really be down on power too, way down and those wernt powerhouses when they were new, but it beats a horse to pull and carry stuff, during wwll many folks did that to get around, you only got something like 5 gallons of gas a week, so most of the gas production could go to the war effort,

ericlb · Jul 17, 2014

the other down side, since wood smoke doesnt have any lubricant properties, like gasoline does, even ethanall contains some lubricant properties, engine life will be affected too

Anonymous-0 · Jul 17, 2014

When wood burns, it is the gases that the hot wwod gives off that actually burns. Look at a burning splinter some time and you will see the flame starts a tint space above the wood. The gas produced is burned in cars, but I don't know the exact process and don't know the chemical composition of the gases. The Europeans during WW II used the wood burning cars also. One soldier who was over there said he saw one of the cars going up a hill and the driver had to stop and feed more fuel into the combustion apparatus.

KEH

mkirsch · Jul 17, 2014

I think it's called a "gasifier."

The engine is not actually running on the smoke from the burning wood. It is running on the gases produced from the wood chips that are being heated by the burning wood.

You burn wood to heat wood to create combustible gases that are then piped into the engine. It's a VERY inefficient process, but when the wood is "free..."

That was done solely for the purpose of television.

Tom in TN · Jul 17, 2014

As KEH said, that technology has been around for a long time. It probably pre-dates it, but in the later years of WWII, the Allies had cut off the oil supply to Germany. Their military, and subsequently some of the civilian population, resorted to gasification to operate their vehicles.

If you Google "gasification", or search on Youtube for it, you'll probably find lots of information about it.

It works, but is very inefficient.

Tom in TN

Dick2 · Jul 17, 2014

I remember the WWII vets talking about seeing cars powered that way when they were in Australia during the war. They would use just about anything that would burn. Also remembered them arguing whether they were burning the gasses or powering a small steam engine.

Mike (WA) · Jul 17, 2014

Also google "wood gas" and "producer gas" for more info on the subject. Used during WWII, when gasoline was rationed (or just plain unavailable, in parts of Europe). Its a two step process- you're heating green wood chips to produce the flammable gas, which is then piped into the engine somewhat like an LP system. The heating fire would use ordinary dry firewood, but the chips you heated had to be green.

Chris Jones · Jul 17, 2014

I've heard they were popular in some European countries during WWII due to gasoline shortages.

Here's a Wikipedia article.
There are also a lot of youtube videos on the subject.
Wikipedia article

Bret4207 · Jul 17, 2014

It works. And while it may be "inefficient" compared to gasoline or diesel, if the time comes when you can't get gas or diesel it's a viable option. Lots of info out there on line. Lots more better for stationary applications, like running a generator or water pump.

Anonymous-0 · Jul 17, 2014

find the movie ,, Longest hundred miles ,, circa 1967, doug mclure , ricardo montalbon.. .based on ww2 ,refugees in phillipines fleeing nnalert to safety used a bus that required a fuel burner on the back, it required someone to constantly stoke it as I recall in the movie ,,as a kid I asked dad what it was,, and he said they were making gas ,, but they may as well phart in the tank because the system was not worth a $ hit ... just found the link to the movie looked like it gave adequet power ,,. but that's the movies ...

souNdguy · Jul 17, 2014

lookup gasification / gassifier

syngas is a fuel....

Billy NY · Jul 17, 2014

It was interesting to see Eustace and his buddy, build that wood gasification set up on his truck and actually use it, maybe a stunt for the script, who knows.

The show is somewhat interesting, I enjoy watching Tom or I think that is his name in Montana, old school craftsmanship, tanning, knife and bow/arrow and similar things he makes, something to learn and appreciate.

This year they added someone from New Mexico, man and his son. I have NEVER seen such a fool with a horse. When he went to rope that horse and got its front leg stuck but good in between cattle panels, the display of stupidity shown by this man is beyond words. I could not believe this idiot while attempting to teach or instruct his son, badgered that horse to the point of creating such panic, resulting in what happened, anyone who handles horses for real would know better, in addition, to that, cattle panels with gaps like that, just tells me the man is a fool who should not be handling horses. Cripes, at least have a break away solid top rail or use a pen where the horse cannot injure itself! I'd have laughed if he got stomped, he really deserved it !

flying H · Jul 17, 2014

Then He puts his son on the unbroke horse and about gets him stomped. The idiot should be restrained. Where is the SRS when they really could help..... but then they wouldnt know any better eather.

Mike M · Jul 17, 2014

That old fellow Tom can really do some things that are a lost art. Even all gimped up he still seems to get out and go a lot. What he does sure can't be easy.
The other fellow Rich who climbs around in the mountains chasing cats is no spring chicken either.

A couple of tough guys for sure !

Billy NY · Jul 17, 2014

He sure knows old methods, techniques and has skills that long precede him, its something to appreciate. It was fascinating to learn how he made those arrows.

Rich certainly has some hills to climb, I think during last season he was helping out a rancher by pushing those cats back. They live an isolated life, but both find purpose, humble living too, but with a lot of character given what they do.

I realize its television, something I don't spend much time with, seeing a lot of these outdoor activities is interesting.

da.bees · Jul 17, 2014

He walked up to the horse at one point which shows there was no reason to sling the rope in the first place. The fact the horse didn't struggle much while his leg was stuck also shows he was gentle.

dr sportster · Jul 17, 2014

" Is this not America , How can this be ?" " I thought we lived in a free country" It's called your property tax bill you idiot. Stop cutting wood and get a job. As far as the wood burning car,well , did you notice anyone else with a wood burning car? No . Bad idea maybe? Buy some gas .

Billy NY · Jul 17, 2014

That is exactly what I thought, really was a nice horse. I guess from dealing with thoroughbreds, this you just makes you cringe. Gentle ones like this one would be a walk in the park, the previous can be overwhelming. Exactly what you said came to mind, what in the heck was the point of even chasing him around and getting him all wound up anyway, for TV ? Shameful !

Everyone has their means and methods and every horse is different, but this was out of line, it really was. I have thrown people off our place for getting out of line with horses, either the person and or the horse, or both are going to get hurt, I would never tolerate it, and people knew it. I had a woman get mean with one in the aisle in front of me, the horse struck at her with good cause, I escorted her out and said some of the worst things I could, just ticks me off when people do that.

Actually, I don't think I'd have laughed if that guy got stomped, its not funny at all, it's just extremely sad, that horse was a gentle one and smart, knew he was caught in that fence, how many would have thrashed until it had to be put down or seriously injured, thats what they do. When he said sometimes they lose a hoof, when doing this, ok, it takes all types but really ? I guess he don't care about pain, suffering and or putting them down, then dealing with the remains.

NY 986 · Jul 17, 2014

Eustace should try to see if he could get a John Deere D to run on grain alcohol as some local old timers claimed they did during the Great Depression. I have a feeling that a part of any batch of shine would not wind up in that tractor. It's not much of a show but the old guy in Montana and Eustace are interesting. The guy with the dogs seems like the SOS every week.

dr sportster · Jul 17, 2014

But there is never anything good on. Everytime one of the shows I like comes on it is a repeat.

jennifer408 · Jul 17, 2014

no wonder your confused, you waste your time watching stupid sh!t like that, get a life, go out and play with your tractor.

Spook · Jul 17, 2014

That show is a waste of bandwidth. Completely fake.

sms · Jul 17, 2014

20-25 years ago my uncle built a wood gasifier. Was
able to run his pickup on it but lacked power on the
hills. He used to take it to engine shows and run
hit and miss engines on it then use engine and buzz
saw to cut wood for gasifier. Some in CT and NY may
remember it.

Wesley Stephens · Jul 17, 2014

I had read about gasifiers a few times before I saw that show. Some were about WWII shortages and others were about recent projects people had done. One of the older articles said that while they did work and allowed equipment to be used when no other fuel was available, the engines had about half the power and had to be overhauled twice as often. Interesting to see it on TV, but I'm not so sure the man couldn't buy a little gas to skid some logs like he said.

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