should i get it or walk

jennifer408 · Jul 8, 2014

here's an oliver for sale, should i buy it or wait for a gasser that runs already ? the old man and i aren't afraid to work on the motor.

http://fresno.craigslist.org/grd/4558382814.html

jennifer408 · Jul 8, 2014

im trying to figure out how to post the site so you can click on it. please be patient.

http://fresno.craigslist.org/grd/4558382814.html

it worked !!! now how do i change the wording so it says poke here or oliver ?

Old Roy · Jul 8, 2014

Just imagine it ya got it to look like that one ..
sounds like a good cheap project ..

When I see a link like the first one ya made I left
click on it slide mouse over it ..... them right
click... it gives options to go directly to that
link

jon f mn · Jul 8, 2014

Put what ever you want in the next box down that
says "link title".

Steve@Advance · Jul 8, 2014

Looks like a good keeper project. Diesels are unforgiving and expensive to repair though.

jennifer408 · Jul 8, 2014

are the parts easy enough to find or a nightmare ?

RESLLS · Jul 8, 2014

3 good tires, weights and manuals ought to be worth asking price. Good looking machine to let it go to scrapper.

paul · Jul 8, 2014

The price is low enough if it is close to haul.

I would be scared of the folks being dishonest, when they put
up a pic of a restored beautiful tractor and are actually selling
a three wheeled non running clunker. While they tell it like it is,
they are obviously trying to over represent it with that pic.....
Wonder what other selling tricks they are using....

I'm not up on the newer Oliver's, but about that time they had
some really odd engines didnt they, that have no parts
available? I would look into that for sure.

With overheating and not running, it will basically need an
engine transplant. If it were a simple problem that would fix it
themselves. So, price out an engine and availability to get a
real cost of where you will be.

What is the rest of the tractor going to be like, tranny, clutch,
hydraulics? With it not running, how much else will you need to
stick into it? If it were repairable the current owners likely
would do so, hold that close to home as you look it over, don't
look at their shiny pretty picture and think of what it could be,
look at what is actually there and what all you will need to do
to make it working, I suspect the engine is the tip of the
iceberg?

But, I've blown $500 on things with less potential for return!

Paul

Steve Sewell · Jul 8, 2014

Made by Fiat check here for parts and info.

http://www.importtractorparts.net/

Larry NEIL · Jul 8, 2014

Jennifer, hope RR Lund chimes in here as he is up on the Fiat built Olivers. Some were great and some were not so good. If you look up on the Oliver site his posts, Randy has posted a list of the good ones and the bad ones.
I would definatly post this on the Oliver board before buying to get that information.

Roy in UK · Jul 8, 2014

It is a Fiat 415 in Oliver's colors basically. Oliver did a lot of 'that sort of thing' before the name disappeared altogether, They even imported some green and white painted David Browns from The UK for a while.

evilboweivel · Jul 8, 2014

Jen take a look here then decide
good luck
Ron
Fiat Tractors

1130Leo · Jul 8, 2014

Have you actually seen the tractor they are
selling? If it is in decent shape, and if parts
are available, it may be very well worth your
while, that size of tractor would be very handy to
have. I personally prefer diesel's to gas
tractors. When I was a kid the neighbor had a gas
tractor in the field running it when the gas line
broke and it went up almost like a bomb. He was
lucky as he jumped off the back and got away with
only a broken leg, the tractor was completely
toast. Scared me enough to decide then I was not
wanting any gas tractors.

Mike (WA) · Jul 8, 2014

The link to Import Tractor Parts below used to have a synopsis of the desirability of the various import tractors written by Danny Bowes, the proprietor, but I can't find a link to it now. Hopefully rrlund will come on, because he usually posts a link to it when the subject comes up.

Either the gas or diesel 1250 was a total disaster, because of an off-breed engine with no parts availability. But I'm thinking that was the gas, and the diesel is basically OK. And I checked Import Tractor Parts, and they seem to have lots of parts for the 1250 diesel. They show a rebuild kit for the diesel, and I'd check the price on that before doing anything else.

That being said, its awful easy to get more into a tractor than its worth, especially a "pig in a poke" that isn't running. And diesel engine rebuilding is not a project for the beginner.

rrlund · Jul 8, 2014

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Import tractor list

jennifer408 · Jul 8, 2014

thanks everyone and i agree, im waiting for rrlund to chime in. i talked to the guy on the phone and he seem to be trying be as honest as he can, he said it came with the property he bought 6 years ago, he put marvel oil or something like that and got it to spin but it won't start and it is obvious that it got overheated and he don't know if something got bent or not when it overheated. the tire just needs a new tube, the block is not cracked or damaged by looking at it. we'll see what our expert has to say, last i heard the tire guy is bringing him out a new tire today (not fun)

ShadetreeRet · Jul 8, 2014

Notice, seller says this is NOT the tractor that is for sale.

jennifer408 · Jul 8, 2014

(quoted from post at 10:04:15 07/08/14) .
Import tractor list

ok, thanks, i bookmarked it for future reference.

1130Leo · Jul 8, 2014

When you go look at it, according to the import
tractos link, if it is a 3 cylinder, it may well be
worth a chance, if it is a 4 cylinder, run!!!

Joe Blackeby · Jul 8, 2014

Howdy Paul & Shade, I'm doing the same thing now with a
JD LA i'm selling on C/L.
I had to enclose apicture of a LA that isnot the actual picture as some people DON'T know the difference between a A & LA. Hope this helps explain it.
Cheers, JoeB

Brendon Warren · Jul 8, 2014

It looks a lot like this one that I have. I gave 700
only because the tires were good. It runs well and
I've raked hay with it.

Duner Wi · Jul 8, 2014

Bareco/AU list engine parts for 415 4 cyl Fiat.

http://www.importtractorparts.net/olivertractors2.html

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