Best planter for sweet corn ?

Billy NY

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What does everyone use for planting sweet corn, curious both tractor and or walk behind.

I'm a bit frustrated with this earthway, the darned corn plate drops too many seed, so if you buy what you plan out, you could run out before you are done, and or you need extra, its kind of a waste, and though I did a germination test on last years seed, all came up, I don't want to hold extra seed, though I know exactly what I need for this patch.

Now before I trash this Earthway product, I know theres just an issue with the plates and seed size, I modified the bean plate, tested on a tarp, did this for the corn plate and on other and the bean plate with half the holes taped off, looked good on spacing, and only double dropped every other drop, on a tarp, in the rows I have huge skips, the darned thing !!!! Precision seeder my @ss LOL ! Thats what it says on the box LOL! Plus being heavier, clay/loam, with rocks, its just not heavy enough I think I need something better, which leads to my next question.

Are the old planet Junior, Cole or similar worth fooling with, are they accurate or work well with current seed? Is this just a seed size thing, just face it and buy extra or what is the deal.

My issue is I had to go through a lot to prep this soil, hand raked the whole patch off of the rocks, then to have this darned planted goof off, and I got it in before a nice soaker, where it dropped seed, it all came up and is though its late, I'm on a hill facing south, will fertilize the heck out of it, it will produce, now I have to hand cultivate the rows, replant and will go back to the wasteful corn plate!

So what do you all use and how does it work for you, tractor pulled or mounted is ok too, though I prefer the walk behind for now, little compaction etc. I think one the old school Planet Junior, or Cole is in order, and I see the Cole is still in production, darned expensive, but if it works well, I can see it being worth it, just have to save up LOL !
 
Sweet corn is hard to plant because of is varied seed size.I use medium/large round cell corm plate for sweet.A few doubles,a few skips but good enough.If your running out of seed,you are simply not buying enough.No planter will give perfect placement in this case.To get perfect stand (there is NO perfect stand) ,each seed will need to be EXACTLY the same size.If you want 'perfect' placement,then you need an (expencive) finger pickup type planter.Or plant one seed at a time by hand.
 
Corn likes to be close together if you have a miss and a double just move one it won't it. Water good after.
I plant two rows about 4 inches apart for maximum size and yield
Walt
 
I have an Earthway I use for beans and sweet corn in the garden. I had a lot of skips this year and chalked it up to old seed. Maybe the planter was messing up. I replanted with different seed so we'll see. I tried double rows about 8" apart for the replant.

Larry
 
Billy, I have an old Earthway push planter. I love it. It's one that Golden Harvest promoted.

When I had a push plow I would make a furrow with it then use the push planter and just drop the sweetcorn in the furrow. This way they spread out. I then took the push plow and used it to cover the seeds. I did buy an extra seed plate and cut the seed pockets with a dremel tool. Stuck the seed plate in boiling water for a 45 seconds then pushed the seed pocket in closer toward the plate itself. This made the seed pockets on the plate smaller.
 
(quoted from post at 21:25:13 06/30/14) What does everyone use for planting sweet corn, curious both tractor and or walk behind.

I'm a bit frustrated with this earthway, the darned corn plate drops too many seed, so if you buy what you plan out, you could run out before you are done, and or you need extra, its kind of a waste, and though I did a germination test on last years seed, all came up, I don't want to hold extra seed, though I know exactly what I need for this patch.

Now before I trash this Earthway product, I know theres just an issue with the plates and seed size, I modified the bean plate, tested on a tarp, did this for the corn plate and on other and the bean plate with half the holes taped off, looked good on spacing, and only double dropped every other drop, on a tarp, in the rows I have huge skips, the darned thing !!!! Precision seeder my @ss LOL ! Thats what it says on the box LOL! Plus being heavier, clay/loam, with rocks, its just not heavy enough I think I need something better, which leads to my next question.

Are the old planet Junior, Cole or similar worth fooling with, are they accurate or work well with current seed? Is this just a seed size thing, just face it and buy extra or what is the deal.

My issue is I had to go through a lot to prep this soil, hand raked the whole patch off of the rocks, then to have this darned planted goof off, and I got it in before a nice soaker, where it dropped seed, it all came up and is though its late, I'm on a hill facing south, will fertilize the heck out of it, it will produce, now I have to hand cultivate the rows, replant and will go back to the wasteful corn plate!

So what do you all use and how does it work for you, tractor pulled or mounted is ok too, though I prefer the walk behind for now, little compaction etc. I think one the old school Planet Junior, or Cole is in order, and I see the Cole is still in production, darned expensive, but if it works well, I can see it being worth it, just have to save up LOL !

I tried one. They suck! I got an old 4 row JD corn planter, cut it down to 2 row and modified it to cat 1 3point. I've used it to pant corn, green beans and peas. Works great!.

Rick
 
A Planet Jr. doesn't do any singulation at all - it just dribbles the seed out through an orifice. So, that is probably not what you'd want. I don't have any experience with the Cole but have used a Deere 71 for a wide range of crops including sweet corn. If you have the right seed plate they can plant almost anything and do a good job. Trouble is that these units have gotten ridiculously expensive the last few years as guys buy them up for "food plots".
 
Brinly,Cole,JD 71 and the individual unit Allis Chalmers all do a good job planting sweet corn provided you get the right plate plus you can control spacing.The Brinly and Cole units have plates with different numbers of drop holes so that the easy way to control spacing without changing gears.Also have an old David Bradley two row planter that does a good job but the plates are hard to come by.
 
I have the Lambert garden seeder, which is a lot like the Earthway. My experience is the same as yours, so I would cross it off your list.
 
Plant about an acre - use an old Allis Chalmers 4 row pull behind. It does a great job. I honestly think if you want a good accurate one you have to cut down a "real" planter that is made to work in the field.
 
I have been using an AC air champ. It does pretty well, an occasional double, spacing was pretty good.
 
IIRC my uncles last planter (been awhile ago) was a JD plateless model and I think 2 row and I also think he also had it special ordered ? Doubt they will make little ones anymore.
He did a lot of sweet corn and maybe even the pumpkins with it.
 
I have an earthway. Use the pea disk for beans - works well for beans other than planting a little close. Works OK for corn with corn disk, but sometimes will bind up on a seed - have to stop and dislodge. May skip a few, so you have to go slow and listen for the seeds rattling down the chute. Blame this on the coarseness and uneven seeds. I use a spring tooth drag (harrow) to prepare the garden -drive real straight and use one of the groves for a row. Move over 3 feet for the next. A hoe can be used to cover seeds if necessary. Not perfect, but sure beats hand feeding seeds into a long funnel with a garden hose stuck on the end. I would give the earthway a "B" grade.
 
Just changed over from a IH 184 to a Brinly planter. The Brinly planter meters better when you’re only planting a handful or 2 of corn seed. Tried gluing sponges to keep the seed on the plates of the IH 184 with limited success. As an FYI the Brinly planter was made by Cole and uses the smaller Cole plate - not the mx12 one.

On the Brinly in the shop I noticed I was getting doubles so I modified a second plate to eliminate the doubles. Was working well until I went in the field -- turns out all the banging around eliminated the doubles on the original plate and created skips on the modified one.
Go figure
If you want to go fast and have a lot of seed use the IH 184 ---- for just a handful the Brinly works better. Both meter the seed very accurately.
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LOL, that is for sure regarding perfection, with natural things, any carpenter worth his salt will tell you that with wood, definitely agree and understand that.

The plate labeled corn that I used last year, seemed to do ok, but at first this year I planted a row(which I would have to hand pollinate anwyay, but its safe and no critters can get in, fits perfect in that garden just behind tomatoes) in my upper garden, it dropped like 5 seeds, ok, so I figured darned cob webs or some obstruction, blew that out, then the darned thing drops too many, ok, probably better that way, then just buy more, sometimes I get it in my head, things are supposed to work like they should, in reality, not as much as you would like!

I saw a you tube video where a guy very nicely described the same problem, used the bean plate, taped up half the holes, I tested that one out, seemed better than the corn plate, double every other. I thought the corn plate would drop so many I did not have enough seed and yet I do know what I ordered the year before and what it planted, and had left over, something seemed off, no time to order more, the usual farmer crunch type deal LOL ! Figured I'd see what others use or do.

Well, I'll hand cultivate, and replant with the other plate, at least it will stagger, and I'll have corn til the end of september, its in a great spot and lately we seem to get hot weather with humid conditions later so, it should be ok, if not, theres always next year LOL !
 
I saw that last year, doubles and such. This year I used the other plate, but with extra it seemed to be fine, as long as you weed and side dress, it will grow like heck, somehow I just thought this darned seeder should work a little better, and what the heck, good to hear and speak with others about it, I had mostly full rows last season, more problems with weeds and deer, now I have fence, 10' t posts and smaller intermediate t posts, lots of green mulch grass, finally got a lawn sweeper, and the darned planter lets me down LOL or should I say I tried to outsmart it LOL !!!

I will say if you dry the grass cuttings like hay, so much lighter for the sweeper hopper, then collect and spread, works just like wet cuttings, with the nitrogen, I did that on one end, big stalks, full double ears, no weeds, works well.
 
Thanks for the replies, lot of good information here, much appreciated, I'd really like to trust one of these walk behinds, I'm using bags of 800 or 1600 mostly, so its handfuls, not sure what you have to do with tractor mounted or pulled planters for small areas, I'm doing 11 rows, 70' or 80' 30" spacing, then a few small cheater rows, where the shape changes just to infill, the last rows are other vegetables nicer soil for potatoes onions etc.
 
Yep getting the right plate is the trick I have over 100 of the small Brinly/Cole plates and about 30 of the larger Cole planter plates.Also with the Cole planters you have to be aware of the left and right hand ones.
 
Sears made a good planter that was built in several configurations including walkbehind but if you buy one make sure it comes with the plates you need as they are hard to find by themselves.
They are accurate and all metal
 
I cheat. I run my seed through a grader similar to this one. I get large, med and small. Usually the larger work best with round seed plates. Meds with flat seed plates, Smalls go through a screen an I try to sort out flats and rounds.

From there I have a planter unit setup on the bench I can test different plates and seed sizes. Between round and flat I probably have a dozen different sizes. Not perfect but generally plants it the way I want.

Oh and I run different plates in the units so I do not only use a third of the seed I buy.
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