Free Electricity

Anonymous-0

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Looks like jennifer408 is not going to come back with her proof of free electricity.
I will leave you with a Truth my Dad told me about automobiles.
You will always pay for a car. Either you are making payments or you are repairing it, sometimes both.
 
If it hadn't been for JP Morgan sabotaging Nicole Tesla s concept of free electricity aboot one hundred years ago, we all would be having not to pay an electric bill every month.
 
Tesla's AC electricity or Edison's DC . . we'd still be paying for it.

As to new cars? Biggest instant money loss on the planet. Especially for the vast majority that don't even pay for -or own the cars. Just make payments forever. I certainly pay for every old car I've got when I work on it. But - haven't had a car payment in 40 years, nor have I ever had collision insurance. Driving an older car is way more cost-effective then buying new- unless you can't work on it yourself.
 
So who was going to pay for the generating stations, the employees, the fuel, etc.? Or was it going to just magically appear at your house? Remember, energy out cannot exceed energy in.
 

Of course you would be paying for it. Tesla was a brilliant mind for physics but he had less common sense than a screwdriver.
 
Maybe not totally FREE but getting YOU to pay for my system makes it free to me.

System cost 25,000
Rebates 20,000
Total cost to me 5,000
Increase home value 10,000
Net in my pocket 5,000
And that's not counting the $500 in free electricity I get out of the system every year.

No I did not take advantage of it but many in my area did.

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We all get busy, I trust she will present the numbers if she has them totaled, but nothing is free, pay me now or later.
 
I see all those costs, rebates, payback time etc. What about the cost to maintain the system. I am positive these systems require maintenance and parts do wear out.
 
There is more electricity coming off the sun as there is heat & light. Tesla was harvesting it with a tower.
 
(quoted from post at 18:51:01 06/09/14) Maybe not totally FREE but getting YOU to pay for my system makes it free to me.

System cost 25,000
Rebates 20,000
Total cost to me 5,000
Increase home value 10,000
Net in my pocket 5,000
And that's not counting the $500 in free electricity I get out of the system every year.

No I did not take advantage of it but many in my area did.

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Those "rebates" are made up of funding from the taxpayer. It's someone elses money, coerced from them through taxation. It's good for the recipient, bad for the rest of us. True, the amount we each pay is out there in the .000000001 area, but it all adds up. So that "free" electricity is costing us all, or all the taxpayers of a state if it's a state program.

In the end, there is no "free" electricity, free healthcare or free anything. Someone is paying for it. The older I get, the more I realize it.
 
If a person uses solar with no hook-up to the power-grid - much of the electricity made is wasted. No place for it to go when the sun is bright. I.e. "use it or lose it." The only systems that . . on paper . . come close to paying for themselves are grid-tie systems bought with rebates and NO battery banks. All the equipment (except the solar panels) only comes with 5 year warrantees. After that - all repairs are "out of pocket."

Most grid-tie systems will not work when the grid is down. So there you are - with a $30,000 - $50,000 system -the grid goes out during a storm - and with all that solar - you've got no power anyway.

My 5400 watt system has an added battery bank, charge controllers and switching so I can force it to work when the grid is down. Real payback time is probably . . never. Not why I bought it. We paid around $8000 for a near $50,000 system using the rebates that we were forced to pay into anyway. Our plan was - and still is -to move somewhere so rural no power is available and take it all with us. Saving money was never part of the plan.
 
Somebody has to pay for that tower, the people who maintain it, and however the electricity is transmitted to where it is needed. It may be a lower cost electricity, but it still wouldn't be free to the consumer.
 
Had a friend in northern British Columbia who had a big power line through his place, but no power available to him. His predecessor had rigged parallel wires under the high-tension line, and adjusted the distance until he had 110 volts (he called it a "rhombus")- power company spied it on one of their infrequent inspections, and tore it down. The guy contacted them, pleaded with them to put a meter on it, he would pay double, etc.- No dice. So friend had to listen to the hum of a zillion volts going overhead, while he stumbled around in the dark with candles and kerosene lanterns, trying to keep the fire going to keep from freezing. This was back in the '60's, before solar and wind power- either you had juice, or you didn't.
 

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