raking with under belly exhaust?

Super Steve · Jun 6, 2014

So I ended up with an old Ferguson tractor that isn't really any use to me other than maybe raking hay. Should I be nervous about the under belly exhaust on it?

Anonymous-0 · Jun 6, 2014

Back in the day when they came out a lot of hay fields burned with that type of exhaust. I personally wouldn't use one.

jeffcat · Jun 6, 2014

Have a 300 utility. Naaa, just as long as you don't park over it and keep an eye out. Clear the exhaust when you are done. Nevere had any problems unless you have a bracket that catches crap. Jeffcat

Zachary Hoyt · Jun 6, 2014

I would say it may depend on your climate. I am in NY and have been raking with a Ferguson with bottom exhust for 13 years with no problems, but the ground and the hay are not all that dry here. If you are in the West somewhere where fires are started by exhausts and where the ground gets very dry I don't know what you would need to do to be safe.
Zach

David G · Jun 6, 2014

I would keep it moving and keep an eye on it.

Roger in Iowa · Jun 6, 2014

Been around hay for 60 years without any problem with it. Use some common sense.

Had more trouble with plowing with an 8N, plow would plug and exhaust setting the plug on fire when off the tractor and digging the plug out.

mozark · Jun 6, 2014

I put a vertical exhaust on my TO35, the Continental engine has a beautiful sound that is ruined by using a belly exhaust.

notjustair · Jun 6, 2014

Raking isn't hard work - the exhaust won't be glowing like it would plowing. Slide under it and make sure no one cobbled a bracket with baling wire - that would catch dry hay. I wouldn't stop anywhere it wasn't clear by at least a foot, but I think you are OK.

The hottest place on the exhaust will probably be the elbow to go back since the gasses hit there and have to turn. Wrap that with a little foil if you are really nervous.

ss55 · Jun 6, 2014

The bottom of the hitch pin is often the lowest thing under a tractor, and the first thing that a windrow will snag on, especially under low profile tractors. A short bolt, just long enough to do the job, in place of a long hitch pin will reduce snags. Use a tight a nut or self-locking nut to keep the short bolt from bouncing out.

If the operator stays alert and stops to remove any snags before they ball up tight under the tractor, you should be OK with normal size windrows.

caterpillar guy · Jun 6, 2014

If the hay is that dry. You should be baling it not raking. All you will have is stems raking that dry.

KenL · Jun 6, 2014

I raked a lot of hay and straw years ago with an 8N with underslung exhaust. At times when raking two windrows together, the hay would rub the pipe full length. Never had a problem.

495man · Jun 6, 2014

Rake with underslung diesel exhaust here. Never gave it a second though, having said that, underslung is only good for two things

1) Low buildings
2) Clear line of sight from the seat.

Bought the tractor with the intention of putting "normal" exhaust on it, never got around to it yet!

You don't forget to shut the tractor off when hitching with underslung....

S2710 · Jun 6, 2014

I would switch it to above. Lots cooler on your foot and you won't get gassed to death when you are hooking up a implement. I started a corn field on fire once with a 300 utility raking stalks. That under slung exhaust cam off after that.

Bob

gene bender · Jun 6, 2014

Dont see any reason not to how do you thinkthey raked hay when those were in service Fords and Fergies have raked thousands of acres of hay all had under mufflers like yours

Dan T in MO · Jun 6, 2014

Shut it down when you get lined up and you won't gas yourself hooking up implements.

Fred2 · Jun 6, 2014

If you was wondering what to do at the start you sure will be now, after all the different answers.

Fordfarmer · Jun 6, 2014

We use a Ford Jubilee with the belly exhaust for raking hay...couple hundred acres per year. No problems. Like has been mentioned, raking isn't making the tractor work hard, the tail pipe isn't THAT hot.

Jason S. · Jun 6, 2014

I've raked hay with a Ferguson tractor with under belly exhaust and a Ferguson rake for 30 years. I've raked single swaths all the way up to combining 4 swaths into a windrow. Never a problem in all those years.

JohnDY · Jun 6, 2014

Back when I was home on the farm we had an 8N and a 300 Case that both had the undermount exhaust. Use the 300 on the baler and never had a problem. Used the 8N on the hay rake all the time and never had an issue with it. Used the 8N with a mounted plow to plow the ends of the fields and never had problems with dry stalks. RAKE AWAY111

Anonymous-0 · Jun 6, 2014

(quoted from post at 14:25:00 06/06/14) Back in the day when they came out a lot of hay fields burned with that type of exhaust. I personally wouldn't use one.

Back in the day my grandfather, dad and uncle raked and then baled and hauled hay with a Ferguson of that vintage and never once burned a hay field.

Geo-TH,In · Jun 7, 2014

Is a horizontal exhaust a problem? It may not catch the grass on fire, but I converted my Jubilee to a vertical exhaust because I didn't like the rich gas small when I started engine with choke.

Then in the winter, condensation forms in muffler when you first start engine with cold muffler. At which time, water comes out the exhaust, until muffler warms up, and you take a shower. So I put a 90 at top of exhause to direct the rain forward.

rankrank1 · Jun 7, 2014

Have raked hay with my little Kubota compact tractor on many occasions with underslung exhaust and my little Kubota is lower to the ground than the tractor you are considering. No problems catching hay on fire, but I did have to remove the standard drawbar hitch pin and replace the hitch pin with one just long enough to do the job.

The extra long hitch pin acted like a rake tooth that would pile up hay under the drawbar and between the rear tractor wheels underneath the tractor near where the muffler is located. Without my simple mod, then I do think that I could have had a problem with the underslung tractor exhaust.

As others have stated: Use common sense.

Bret4207 · Jun 8, 2014

Been raking for years with an underslung exhaust, no problems. Did have an 87 year old neighbor tell me he set a few fields on fire with his old F14, hot sparks of carbon he said.

That's all I got.

urbancase · Jun 8, 2014

a few years ago raking hay with a mf 65 gas and had the hay caught on the hitch pin. start smoking and i pulled out of the windrow and pull the hitch pin to get the tractor away from it, a minute later had a fire that we hulled water to to get out.

Wesley Stephens · Jun 8, 2014

Around here, most people converted them to vertical exhaust because of people riding tobacco setters and the people cropping on the inside rows would get gassed when they were used to pull tobacco drags.

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