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The beef industry in the USA is complex. A lot of years the farmers raising beef have had a very thin to nonexistent margin of profit.
This might be one of the reasons had growth enhances were widely used. Widespread use of antibiotics is well documented. Other growth enhancers have come and gone. Probably the latest drug to leave the market is an asthma drug used in humans. It was discovered that when animals where near market weight large number were quite lame. This happened in the last few years. Drug is now banned Is this harmful to humans, I do not know.
If you are concerned about wherea your beef comes from, I think there are bigger issues to think about.
 
Whatever the animal eats, you will end up with it in your body when you eat the meat.

We had an oil burning water heater years ago that the cattle knocked the tank off into the water a couple times. Later we butchered a fat steer - the meat all tasted of fuel oil; we had to throw all the meat away.

Bought an electric water heater and jumked the oil heater.
 
Ya,mine scare the hell out of me. They lay in the chit out there in the feedlot.

Gimme a break. That whole bunch of crap on here yesterday,now this? What is it,fundraising time for the wackjobs or what?
 
I never had much trouble making a profit and sure have not had any problem the last few years, if you have cows, grass and rain you dang near have to try to lose money.
 
(quoted from post at 09:55:44 06/05/14) I never had much trouble making a profit and sure have not had any problem the last few years, if you have cows, grass and rain you dang near have to try to lose money.
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Except, most commercial beef is raised in feedlots, where there is nothing but concrete.

These guys have to buy every drop of feed that goes into the animals, which is all fine and dandy as long as corn is low.

When corn got high, hoooooooooooboy! Oh it's so not fair that the corn guys are making a profit instead of them! Not fair I tell ya!
 
I had a cube steak last night and the darn thing tasted like a darn cow. What's up here anyway.
 
(quoted from post at 13:10:51 06/05/14) I had a cube steak last night and the darn thing tasted like a darn cow. What's up here anyway.
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Yep, it should taste like a cube.
 














I know where the cattle are fattened, I responded to his post which was ''The beef industry in the USA is complex. A lot of years the farmers raising beef have had a very thin to nonexistent margin of profit'' the farmers raising the beef are the cow calf people.
I have never heard a feedlot operator cry that the corn producers were making a profit, the majority of feedlots grow a lot or most of their own corn and silage corn, although many buy most of their hay and protein. The reason all feedlot operators monitor corn prices is because the input costs you the same whether you grow it or not because as a stockman you are either buying corn at market price or selling your own corn through the cattle, if corn prices are high you have a decision to make.
 
Better get your facts straight. The drug wasn't pulled because of harm to humans, it was pulled because Tyson, the world's largest packer decided that they wouldn't buy cattle with it in, because of the lameness.
Just think, we are now feeding cattle to over 1500 pounds. They live on dirt for most of their lives, we load them onto trucks with lots of gear shifters sitting behind the wheel. Unload them onto concrete, and expect them to not limp.

I TAKE PRIDE in the beef I raise! Mine is not fed any of the stimulants, or antibiotics, unless they need it.
I am pretty sure if I had to buy beef, over the counter, I would be eating lot of pork and chicken. Not because of how beef is fed, but how it is processed.
 
As it was intended to be:
Momma's milk
Green grass
And a number tag in the ear
Now what happens further down the line after it is sold and has left my pasture is beyond my control.
 
I might not have expressed my comment on the asthma drug right. Meant to say a human asthma drug that was used as a growth stimulant in cattle.
Yes, Tyson might have started it, but the FDA finished it. Source: FDA.com/gov
 
Apparently you have not been around enough cycles yet. If it is profitable, farmers will eventually raise the supply to make it not so profitable.
Your statement about the last few years is true. Checked market this morning and see some feeders over $2.00 a pound. Never thought I would live long enought to see this price.
 
Water, grass. Hay in the winter and a little corn if it gets extremely cold. Tastes good. No complaints from customers either.
 
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(quoted from post at 09:55:44 06/05/14) I never had much trouble making a profit and sure have not had any problem the last few years, if you have cows, grass and rain you dang near have to try to lose money.
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[b:52e25df48c]Except, most commercial beef is raised in feedlots, where there is nothing but concrete.
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These guys have to buy every drop of feed that goes into the animals, which is all fine and dandy as long as corn is low.

When corn got high, hoooooooooooboy! Oh it's so not fair that the corn guys are making a profit instead of them! Not fair I tell ya!
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a sure never been in a commercial feed lot.:roll:
Nothing but concrete!!! :lol:
Maybe be the feed bunks and the silage pits and the odd feed alley are concrete but that's it.
 
I make a practice of eating only what I raise here, but that is because I like to know my food when it was walking. People are very worried about their meat supply but are not willing to live like Americans did 100 years ago when this was not a concern. These thoughts come with the "progress" of the times.

I farm because I love the land and animals. I enjoy being in the tractor planting milo and sorting hogs as they grow. Some other folks enjoy their desk and city life. They have to understand that the vagaries regarding their food come with that. Each life has negatives that ride along with it. Folks from the city think I am slow, crazy, or simple because I work in the dirt. That knowledge is my cross to bear. The steak I had last night grew up within 100 yards of this house. That kind of cancels the other out. At least in my eyes.
 
If you don't think anti-biotics, growth enhancers, and these types of things aren't used in other things such as pork and poultry, you can think again. Maybe your post shouldn't be isolated to just beef. Maybe you should research out everthing you eat. You might be suprized and quit eating alot of things. I'm not saying growth enhancers are good. Don't know about the bad part. For what its worth, I am a cow calf farmer and don't use any growth enhancers. Just don't think the beef industry needs to be singled out on this. My 2 cents.
 
The beginning post was about beef. I thought people would assume the practice would expend to pork and chicken. Did not intend to single out beef. Sorry
 
According to some of the packaging, up to 20% solution. Full of chemicals to retard spoilage (extend shelf life by 35%) and water to add weight and cheat the consumer. Sounds yummy doesn't it?
 
No problem. I think you have researched this out somewhat and know what you are talking about. I even agree with ya. Un-informed people might read an isolating post like this and quit eating beef all together not realizing other meats have the same situation. Thats all I'm getting at. Nothing against you personally at all. Good thread actually. I think if people really knew what all went on with all of their food, there would be alot of hungry people. There are so many people that have very little to do with their food other than a tad bit of cooking. Not even that for some people. Wrong ideas can come about very easily.
 
Maybe people who are concerned should buy rifles and shoot their all natural meat in the fall. I'm not worried about the meat I buy in stores.
 
Don't remember which state but I remember seeing pictures of a feed lot built on the runways of a former Air Force base.

Sorry, I don't remember the details.
 
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(quoted from post at 10:04:01 06/05/14)
(quoted from post at 09:55:44 06/05/14) I never had much trouble making a profit and sure have not had any problem the last few years, if you have cows, grass and rain you dang near have to try to lose money.
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[b:e5859444fd]Except, most commercial beef is raised in feedlots, where there is nothing but concrete.
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These guys have to buy every drop of feed that goes into the animals, which is all fine and dandy as long as corn is low.

When corn got high, hoooooooooooboy! Oh it's so not fair that the corn guys are making a profit instead of them! Not fair I tell ya!
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a sure never been in a commercial feed lot.:roll:
Nothing but concrete!!! :lol:
Maybe be the feed bunks and the silage pits and the odd feed alley are concrete but that's it.
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Those are my thoughts too Bison. The ignorance of how food is grown is an epidemic. Some people see a propaganda documentary on MSNBC and take it as the gospel
 
I raise ducks and chickens, gives me meat and eggs, and I hunt deer in the fall.

Neighbors raise lambs for 4H, cousins are pig farmers.

That gives me most of the meat we need for the freezer.

I am more worried about the chemicals in the diet Pepsi and Monster Energy drinks that I guzzle way too much of. Need to quit that crap asap.

Rick
 
I am more worried about the chemicals in the diet Pepsi and Monster Energy drinks that I guzzle way too much of. Need to quit that crap asap.

Rick
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People get all bent out of shape over what may or may not be in their food but will shove down their throats what ever the doctor gives them. The narcotics that are handed out in the name of healthcare are waaay more dangerous than a steer that has been finished out for a couple of months in a feedlot.
 
I have owned cattle for over 40 years, and my father and grandfather before me, apparently you don't understand what I wrote. If you own the cattle (little to no debt) and have grass (which is a cheap input) and are blessed with rain to grow the grass then you have a natural advantage. Cow numbers have always peaked and troughed on a roughly 10 year cycle, crops can be increased markedly in a single season but cattle and calves cannot. There has rarely been any true oversupply of beef, the dairy buyout of the late 80's caused a temporary oversupply and the BSE panic of the early 2000's caused another temporary glut but the norm is not oversupply it is under demand, usually due to retail price. The price impact has been reduced significantly by the explosion of food stamp recipients because people who are not paying for something themselves do not care about the price, good for cattlemen, bad for tax payers in general. If you knew anything about the cattle business you would know these things.
 
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