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farmerwithmutt · May 30, 2014

Back in the day my uncles one family friend and my dad worked together we filled 4 barns a year plus stacks and sheds .to say i grew up in a hay mow is an understatement.
I got room and board and maybe a little cash asking for a raise didnt happen complaining you knew better. sound familier anybody have similar stories?
Ok where am i going well today at the factory a couple guys and the supervisor got in to it they figured they didnt get paid to work hard sad thing an old geezer pushing 60 with a bad arm was out working 30 year olds.
My thought you took the job for the pay but what would you say ? Thanks for letting me vent this just kinda bothers me sure loved to swat somebody alongside the head but

Greg1959 · May 30, 2014

farmerwithmutt- Heck, they ought to be happy they have a job! Regardless of the pay.

Greg

greg oliver · May 30, 2014

It sounds like you and I have more than Olivers in common! My ("coworker") say's he doesn't get paid enough to think and he proves it every day he shows up! I work construction and none of my fellow employee's seem to take any pride in their work, pretty sad I'm 50 and outwork all of them! I was a dairy farmer 20 years ago and also worked part time for local Jamesway barn equipment dealer so I know about needing to get things done, make hay while the sun shine's done ranting , Greg

old-9 · May 30, 2014

I always told my apprentices "If you don't make the boss money, he doesn't need you."
joe

Larry NEIL · May 30, 2014

Makes me laugh when the Gov't tries to raise the minimum wage...all it does is create more cheaters! Labor is a commodity and right now there is an abundant supply.
Nephew works as an operator for a fairly large road building company. One of the laborers complained about them not paying all worked hours...seems a lot of the laborers were working 40 hours for 30 hours pay and every one of them got a check for back pay, some over $100K!
After the smoke cleared the boss had a meeting with them and suggested if they wanted to keep their jobs they should give their checks back to him. 29 0ut of 33 gave their checks back!
That's why I don't like the amnesty bill!

Bob · May 30, 2014

I CAN"T comment on the drama you are dealing with, but have tossed quite a few idiot cubes in my time, and have been in a HOT hay mow dealing with an
seemingly endless endless stream of bales coming up the conveyor.

NOT too many "needy" workers would do that nowadays.

504 · May 30, 2014

I pointed out some really bad safety practices to a foreman a few weeks ago.
I could see he was getting mad till I told him if OSHA showed up and shut down his plant, his boss was not making money, and my boss would not have a customer to sell to, and we both would need to find new jobs.
They have done a lot better job of storing their flammables since then.
Make your boss money, and he can pay more.

LAA · May 30, 2014

My Dad always said, ''If you take a mans money, give him an honest days work, if you don't like your job don't complain and make problems for everybody else, find another job''. I taught my Sons the same. I also don't get people who constantly gripe about the pay, working conditions etc. because they agreed to that salary to perform that particular job before accepting the job, I know of none who had their arms twisted to hire on.

oldtanker · May 30, 2014

When I retired from the Army I held a pretty high opinion of the civilian workforce. After working several jobs before starting to farm that illusion went away. I worked with one guy who would brag to others that he didn't get paid enough to work hard and didn't. Most of the folks I worked with wanted the paycheck but didn't care much for the work involved in earning it.

The first year we lived here I got hired to help bale hay for the guy who because my sisters FI. He baled with a 560 IH and a JD 24T. I stacked on the wagon behind the baler. He's run in 4th gear about 1/2 throttle. I worked for him that year and the first haying the next year. Then I reported for basic training. The physical part of basic was easy compared to baling for that guy!

Rick

Brendon-KS · May 30, 2014

My very first real job was working for a neighbor farmer when I was a freshman in high school. My job was to ride on the back of a two-ton grain truck and dump the 5-gallon buckets of cantaloupes that the field hands lifted up to me as they picked. I was the only one in the field who could really speak English and the guy on the other side of the truck and I passed the time trying to teach each other our native languages. On occasion when the "melónes" weren't quite ready there was other work like loading van-box semi trucks with watermelons by hand. (Sometimes one would drop "by accident" and we would have to stop and "clean it up". They were tasty!) I think my friends probably thought I was nuts but looking back it was a good experience. I don't remember what I got paid - it probably wasn't much - but I also don't remember really caring much about that. I just remember the satisfaction of having a job and doing something productive. I was also impressed by the work ethic of the guys in the field with me. There are a lot of Americans who would rather collect "government assistance" while sitting at home watching their cable TV than to work half as hard as these guys did.

sms · May 31, 2014

My dad was a logger and sawyer, cut all his own timber and sawed it all, mostly grade hardwood. We grew up in the woods and in the mill without all the fancy equipment of today. I remember not having a forklift, rolling logs from stacks across the millyard into the mill with canthooks, lumber handed up and stacked on stickers, and when it sold (buy the tractor trailer load) graded and stacked on trailer by hand in a day(long day). We certainly learned to work and if we asked for pay we were told we had a roof over our head and food on the table (and we grew a lot of our food also).

Bret4207 · May 31, 2014

(quoted from post at 19:43:16 05/30/14) My Dad always said, ''If you take a mans money, give him an honest days work, if you don't like your job don't complain and make problems for everybody else, find another job''. I taught my Sons the same. I also don't get people who constantly gripe about the pay, working conditions etc. because they agreed to that salary to perform that particular job before accepting the job, I know of none who had their arms twisted to hire on.

I agree. One of the things I regret is that I grew up around a lot of complainers, the first few places I worked were full of complainers. Then I started working with guys that had a different attitude and slowly figured out all complaining did is make my life harder. I was never as good an employee as I could have been if my attitude had been different. Of course that didn't hit me till my mid 40's when I went back to working with the complaining group. I regret that.

rd 2N in mo · May 31, 2014

I always said "the best job you will ever have is the first one. No house payment, no bills due, no women to suck you dry."

$3.10 per hour til graduation

dr sportster · May 31, 2014

I have a simple formula . They pay me alot of money and I do alot of work.

Pale Rider · May 31, 2014

There's a couple of the fellows at work I wish I could pay what they're really worth--but the minimum wage laws get in the way.

Dick2 · May 31, 2014

I had one brother that complained all the time that the farm was nothing but work, work, work.

My other brothers and I just sucked it up and kept on working as we knew that it was vital to our family survival. When I see the youth of today, I wonder why the older generation isn't there kicking butt?

bison · May 31, 2014

Back in the sixties i was 13 years old i got my first "paid" job feeding and watering and mucking out the gutters with fork and wheelbarrow a hundred cows and 150 yearlings in a tie stall barn twice a day every weekend over the winter at $2 an hr. i would get paid in the spring when the cows went to pasture.
1 hr commute by bicycle in all kinds of weather.

Guess what.
I never did get paid one red cent

Billy Shafer · May 31, 2014

My father had a simple way of putting things.

A days pay for a days work.

You don't work you don't eat.

Frank 41 · Jun 1, 2014

The only calluses this new young generation will have is on their thumbs from using their cell phones and computers. Will never walk beans, put up square bales, milk cows, dig with a spade, etc. Like another has said about out working these young wimps, it not hard even at my age and with diabetes.

Will Herring · Jun 1, 2014

(quoted from post at 21:31:01 05/30/14) Makes me laugh when the Gov't tries to raise the minimum wage...all it does is create more cheaters! Labor is a commodity and right now there is an abundant supply.
Nephew works as an operator for a fairly large road building company. One of the laborers complained about them not paying all worked hours...seems a lot of the laborers were working 40 hours for 30 hours pay and every one of them got a check for back pay, some over $100K!
After the smoke cleared the boss had a meeting with them and suggested if they wanted to keep their jobs they should give their checks back to him. 29 0ut of 33 gave their checks back!
That's why I don't like the amnesty bill!

Ain't nothing wrong with working hard (I do it myself), but I don't put in my extra time at a company for free. I've got plenty of work to do busting my hind end at home!

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