Snap Rings

UP Oliver · May 17, 2014

I have the steering cylinder and PTO unit apart on my Oliver 1755. I got a nice set of snap ring pliers for myself awhile ago, thinking I'll never have to worry about taking snap rings again.

On both the cylinder and the PTO are these rings that have no holes and just come to a point like a knife. What is the trick to getting them out? I have been trying with screwdrivers for ever and just can't get them out. It just can't be this hard.

Any help is appreciated.

Anonymous-0 · May 17, 2014

On the steering cylinder ,there will be a hole in the housing that you can stick a small punch in and push it in and then you can get a screw driver in and pop it out.

UP Oliver · May 17, 2014

I found that hole. I'm talking about the kind of ring that is in the pinion holding the bolt that threads in to push out the pinion.

Thanks.

cole in mo. · May 17, 2014

Snap rings that give me much static get heated real good in the center, then they just bend over and come out easy.

rrlund · May 17, 2014

Don't take that ring out!!! When you loosen the bolt,it's supposed to lift the gear off the shaft. That's why the ring is in there. All you have to take out is that plug and apparently you have that out.

Hammer house · May 17, 2014

UP, if you are talking about this kind of snap ring, they make A pair of pliers made for them
I have A pair and they work good.

I think most any one would have A pair of them .
But you may be talking about some other kind snap ring.
Click on this to see the pliers

Hammer Man

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=543&q=snap+ring&oq=snap+ring&gs_l=img.12..0l10.4080.8844.0.14339.9.8.0.1.1.0.208.1202.0j7j1.8.0....0...1ac.1.43.img..0.9.1211.GQ-OqlhA8_Y

Bob Bancroft · May 17, 2014

I have a set of snap ring pliers with flat ends, with a little dimple countersunk into the outside of each end. I assume that's what you're needing. Of course it will only work for outside snap rings.

UP Oliver · May 17, 2014

I can't click on that. The pair I have use interchangeable ends that go in the holes on snap rings, so I guess everyone has a pair of the ones you are talking about except me!!

If you could try posting that link again I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

UP Oliver · May 17, 2014

I have the gear out, but I want to take that bolt out to clean the inside of the pinion; too much crap/dirt inside.

Thanks.

rrlund · May 17, 2014

Why not just soak it in gas then blow the crud out with compressed air?

If you're bent on getting it out,I think I've had one out once,and that was by mistake the first time I took one apart. You'll need three screwdrivers just the right size and somebody to help you. Get two of them straight down in to it. One against one end of the ring,the other has to go against it so that they form a V with that one against the other end of the ring. Now twist so that one of them pushes one end of the ring out. Now have somebody else stick a thin one in the little bit of gap. Before it slips out,get an o-ring pick in there and turn it so the hook sticks out toward the center of the gear to keep it from slipping back in. Work a screwdriver around it now and work it up and out.
It's more trouble than it's worth.

JRSutton · May 17, 2014

Funny you mention this, I just wrestled one of those out about 20 minutes ago.

I've taken a million of them out, and every time I do it I tell myself that there HAS to be tool to make them easier, I'm sure of it... but then I never remember too look.

All I do is use a small screw driver to lift one side out - just enough to fit another small screwdriver in behind it.

Then you just kind of walk the screw drivers along.

The trick is to kind of lift it out of the hole while you're prying it out of the groove so it can't snap back in. Kind of hard to explain- but like a spiraling motion.

Some can be very tough to start, but you'll get it eventually.

dpendzic · May 17, 2014

Wow--i never knew there are so many types of snap rings--let alone all the different pliers too.

Owen Aaland · May 17, 2014

A snap ring like this?

They use a tool kit like this:

rrlund · May 17, 2014

Ya,that type,but it's real thick and heavy. Not really meant to come out of there. The plate inside the gear comes up against it and is used as a puller to get the gear off the shaft. I never knew there was any good reason to want to take it out of there.

UP Oliver · May 17, 2014

I though about doing the gas method, especially since the thing slides around so much in there. On a good note, I did get a couple of them out of the PTO unit as I am replacing the quad rings in there. I had to keep my eye on them, they flew out pretty far.

I know you have some Olivers, maybe you can tell me what else I should replace while I am in there? I had a hydraulic leak down into my gear compartment. Once I blocked off the hydraulic line to the PTO my hydraulic level stayed where it should be in the tank, so that is how I figured out my problem; or at least one of them. Would you have any advice on that?

Thanks.

UP Oliver · May 17, 2014

Yes sir that is exactly the type. Thanks for the pictures. I did finally get a couple of them out of my PTO unit with same fancy screwdriver work, I'll have to look for a tool set like that here soon.

Thanks again.

dpendzic · May 17, 2014

hi lite the link and then right click to open it in another tab

Anonymous-0 · May 18, 2014

I just use a flat bed screw driver twist it to get it started and the use a second screw driver and and walk it around and they pop right out I just did one in a transfer case planetary about as big as the bottom of a gallon jug

Owen Aaland · May 18, 2014

(quoted from post at 21:49:18 05/17/14) Yes sir that is exactly the type. Thanks for the pictures. I did finally get a couple of them out of my PTO unit with same fancy screwdriver work, I'll have to look for a tool set like that here soon.

Thanks again.

I've never seen any of those tools for sale anyplace. I'm sure the set I have is 75 years old. It's probably been that long since OTC stopped making them. The set I have came from an IH dealership that sold out in the early 80s. They were listed as IH essential tools but they were not list in the IH special tool catalog when I started to work for a dealership in 1975.

FBH44 · May 18, 2014

I get those things about half way in or out, I hear a SPROINGGGGGG and it disappears flying across the barn.

Owen Aaland · May 19, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:30:30 05/18/14) I get those things about half way in or out, I hear a SPROINGGGGGG and it disappears flying across the barn.

Put a towel over the part as you remove the snap ring. It won't keep it from flying but at least it will be trapped in the towel and not go very far.

bison · May 19, 2014

(quoted from post at 18:41:40 05/17/14) Ya,that type,but it's real thick and heavy. Not really meant to come out of there. The plate inside the gear comes up against it and is used as a puller to get the gear off the shaft. I never knew there was any good reason to want to take it out of there.

had a 1755 that broke the shaft right under the gear.
Can't recall it being a hard job to get the snap ring out

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